Dead Verus

Maynard Technician Elmira, Ontario Posted   Latest  
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Will Not Turn On

I will just put this out there, it is somewhat familiar topic all ready on the internet maybe. Friday evening comes and we walk by our Verus Pro sitting in its cradle its screen looking like disco or a rave with mostly black screen but a very lively array of colours dancing all over. Shut down with power cycle by holding power switch. Now it is noted it will not turn on. Screen only very briefly flashes a bit of white then just black, no boot messages or anything but green light across the top stays lit. 

So After disassembly and hook up the hard drive to another computer just to make sure it works it is noted the hard drive will not spin up. hmm, is that what keeps scantool from even trying to start? after manipulating the drive, gently tapping on it giving it a jar by flicking the wrist while holding it a bunch of times I can now hear it spin up again. And EaseUs recognizes there is a drive hooked up.

So back into the unit it goes and we will see what happens, no joy, same as before but I can hear the drive is spinning now as it should. So now on a tip from some forums where one guy suggested a similar problem I thought I could take it another step before throwing in the towel. The tip was that the ram stick is bad. So further disassembly to find the actual ram. After removing it from the machine it is now time to start looking for another stick to swap in to try it out. First stick I found laying around the house today was DDR but what I need is DDR2. So a LenovoT530 didnt produce what I needed either but over on my desk I have an old T61 which still works quite well. And sure enough, even tho the sticks were only 1GB it is the same DDR2 that I need.

So with it plugged in and the battery precariously mounted onto its connector and very minimum assembly it actually starts up and commences to load windows and the whole works. I cautiously was lifting it and took a very low quality picture just to show it actually is working. Actually all my pictures suck, I usually just grab some during a project like this so I have some "evidence" but then after the fact if I want to show them they arent great. I need to start taking some much better pictures.

Anyway, this is saturday, so I guess it will be monday before i get on the train of sourcing a new stick of Ram for this unit. And I have a feeling now is likely the time to clone over the HDD as well to SSD as more blogs and forums have confirmed an SSD can substantially increase the speed of a unit like this. So I will also be looking into that. 500GBof SSD sounds.... exiting??...

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Bob Owner/Technician
East Longmeadow, Massachusetts
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Maynard, if you're considering doing the SSD swap this post may be of help to you. Verus SSD drive Just make sure you buy a 500gb ssd drive. It needs to be the same size or bigger than the original.

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Thank you Bob! Yes so you have confirmed the speed is immensely improved. I have had that floating around in my head awhile now that maybe that is something I should get onto, but always left it cause, well you know, no real reason to do anything with it. So in a sense I guess the memory crash gave me a reason now. Do you find the actual menus within the diagnostic suite to be any faster or is

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Bob Owner/Technician
East Longmeadow, Massachusetts
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Everything is faster. It makes it much more enjoyable to use. Well worth the time and money.

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Mr Bob, It is definitely much quicker on the boot up now!

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Bob Owner/Technician
East Longmeadow, Massachusetts
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Hey Maynard, glad you got it up and running!

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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I’ve done many of these upgrades. Well worth it, easy to do. I get the SSD and RAM from crucial, looking at about $80 for both that i use (250gb SSD and a 2gb RAM). Here are the ones I install. Bootup time is bwtween 1:20-1:40 depending on your version of software The Kingwin clone tool works great. Takes about 1 hour start to finish for everything

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Thanks Daryll, Bob pointed out I will need to use a 500GB drive as I cannot reduce the original size. Also, This unit already has a 2GB memory stick. Now that I installed a 1GB stick for test purposes... it still boots but a "windows recovered from a fatal error message" is coming up. Do you normally get a message like that when you upgrade from a 1GB to 2GB as well?

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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Yours should have a 250gb Seagate thin and 2gb ram already

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Dmitriy Analyst
Toronto, Ontario
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Hi Maynard, "Windows recovered from a serious error" means the memory corruption happened while Windows was running, and it did not finish its session properly. Now it complains about that with each boot... On PCs, typical solution includes running strartup repair tool: howtogeek​.​com/howto/7728/tro… Not sure how the process looks like on the Verus, hopefully someone will chime

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Hey Dimitriy Thanks, I think you touched on it there. Because I didn't have it all assembled I accidentally had the battery come disconnected while it was running, so it just shut down mid stroke. The message wouldn't clear until I connected wifi and actually sent the error log off into cyberspace rather than just choosing "don't send" It is now cleared and doesn't return.... even tho I still

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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You’re original drive should be the same as this one on the bottom

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Matt Technician
De Soto, Missouri
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That is a 500GB not a 250 if I am looking at the right one.

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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Sorry, wrong image, didn’t look close enough, but that was from my laptop This one is what came in the Verus units that I’ve had apart, and have just put a 250gb back in. With this setup, bootup is about 15 seconds slower than my Zeus, and it gave the Verus a new life

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Daryll, yes it is same as that. So i should likely be putting a 500GB back in. Are you suggesting you have sometimes downsized from a 500 to 250 GB in the past?

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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What i’m saying is that they came with a 250gb, not a 500. They also come with 2gb RAM, not 1. Did yours still have the anti-tamper sticker over one of the screw under the battery?

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Yes there was a sticker, however way back in the day we had it sent in for repairs, usb port issues. Maybe snap-on upsized the drive then at that time... And Ram, yes ok, I wouldn't know what was originally in there but it is a 2GB now. I am just testing it with a 1GB because that is what i could get my hands on at the time.

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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Ok gotcha, makes sense then

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Bob Owner/Technician
East Longmeadow, Massachusetts
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The 500 gb drive is cheap money, it's probably not worth trying to downsize it. Plus with the bigger drive you have room to load other apps on the tool. amazon​.​com/Crucial-MX500…

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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Correct. I’d never downsize on a drive

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Matthew Mobile Technician
Bartlett, Illinois
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1 TB SSD used to cost over 200 less than a year ago, no brainer to increase size or stay the same.

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Matthew Mobile Technician
Bartlett, Illinois
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I also like the Samsung SSDs. I have a Lenovo X1 with a Samsung NVMe drive... makes 2.5" SSDs look slow lol.

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Matthew Mobile Technician
Bartlett, Illinois
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+1 for crucial. Great drives and RAM, great price. I have 20 hard drives, none of them spin lol.

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David Mobile Technician
Rimforest, California
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I just bought a Modis Edge in January. Seeing post like this makes me a little nervous. Have what's probably a dumb question. Are these units completely out of warranty which makes doing your own repairs the only option? Thanks,

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Bob Owner/Technician
East Longmeadow, Massachusetts
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Yes, the Verus scanners are long out of warranty. It's really a pretty easy process and not very risky as long as you are careful when pulling the unit apart and then reassembling it. EDIT: David, I just realized you were asking about the Modis Edge. All my info pertains to the Verus Pro which is out of warranty.

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Hi David. As Bob assured you, yess long out of warrenty. However, i would think sending it in and getting snap-on to repair it for you would still be an option too. You wouldnt nessacarily have to do it yourself

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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What we’ve been discussing here is completely distanced from a Modis. No need to worry

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Edward Owner/Technician
San Antonio, Texas
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Does Any One know where i can buy a Snap On Modis Edge Screen Replacement or know the part number....

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Daryll Diagnostician
Seymour, Tennessee
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See your local franchise or oder from here. store​.​snapon​.​com/Product-Detail…​.​aspx

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