Software for FCA used modules

Phillip Diagnostician Alaska Posted   Latest  
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2019 Jeep Compass Sport 2.4L (B ED6) 6-spd (DE1-C635)
Used Module

3C4NJDBB1KT755222, 2019 Jeep Compass 2.4l 4WD. I diagnosed a bad electronic power steering module/motor assembly for a shop. They put a used one in the vehicle and that fixed the problem. But as you could imagine it was throwing codes for programming issues. I tried to write the vin with the Autel but It wasn't having it. I could assume due to the vin already being written once. I asked the shop why they put a used module letting them know the issue and they told me they were told a year wait. Now after some research I found a program I believe called CDN 6 that could be sued to write a different vin on the used module. The only contact I had has not returned my emails so I have to assume they are not existent anymore in terms of selling the software. I am hoping one of guys may have the software for sell or know of someone. Paying for it is not a problem and yes I know I could make skynet selfware by using the software.

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Jeffrey Mobile Technician
Illinois
Jeffrey
   

Its iffy if you can get in touch with anyone that sells them. Also may not be able to change the VIN.

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Phillip Diagnostician
Alaska
Phillip
 

A hex editor is a good sign though. And yea that stuff can take a lot of trial and error. You could spend a year and only figure out one little thing that may not even be close to use full in the grand scheme.

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Michael Owner/Technician
Michigan
Michael
 

The newer Chrysler Modules no longer have 2 VIN slots. They are VIN locked now as a theft deterrent. A lot like the GM modules are now. I'm sure there is an illegal tool out there that someone will say will work but they usually brick the modules and are a felony to possess such tools. The days of using used modules is pretty much gone on the newer vehicles. Vehicle configuration reset will not…

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Phillip Diagnostician
Alaska
Phillip
 

How is it a felony to have a piece of software that could change the vin? Or even set up a module as a new one.

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Jeffrey Mobile Technician
Illinois
Jeffrey
 

Cloning a module with authentic software/hardware isn’t illegal yet. The BCM on chryslers have 2/4 VIN slots original and current from scanner and 4 places in the HEX data. Most others have only have current on scanner but there can be many in HEX data!

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
   

The newer Chrysler Modules no longer have 2 VIN slots. They are VIN locked now as a theft deterrent. A lot like the GM modules are now. I'm sure there is an illegal tool out there that someone will say will work but they usually brick the modules and are a felony to possess such tools. The days of using used modules is pretty much gone on the newer vehicles. Vehicle configuration reset will not…

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Manuel Diagnostician
New Jersey
Manuel
   

He is actually right for a lot of pieces friend you just don’t know… not about felony nonsense but the other is true. I have pieces I can show you from these cars impossible to tamper

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

Nothing is impossible and automotive electronics are, for the most part, fairly basic compared to other stuff. It is supposed to be “tamper-proof” to protect the economic basis of the IP rights of the OEs and their partners. In fact, the stuff is only resistant to the most basic hacking attempts.

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Manuel Diagnostician
New Jersey
Manuel
 

dont be silly this isnt Eeprom class go Buy parts from these modern Chrysler and experiment for yourself

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Jeffrey Mobile Technician
Illinois
Jeffrey
 

Exactly. The only electronics that are impossible to hack are the ones that don’t exist. If someone made it, someone is gonna hack it!

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

Michael Rogers, The tuning companies like HP Tuners, EFI Live and Edge have spent millions of dollars to lobby for the aftermarket reading and writing of ECUs. As of right now my understanding is that the policy of what is legal or not lies in the hands of the librarian of congress. Officially changes can be made for experimental purposes and scientific research. I will try to find the article…

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Michael Owner/Technician
Michigan
Michael
 

The felony part is in reference to the tools sold that allow you to clone but also too unlock odometers. Have to be careful about the tools we purchase so we do not put ourselves at risk. Cloning and tuning is not a felony and i never implied to that. Hopefully for those of us in the aftermarket we never lose that ability. There is always going to be someone working on ways around what obstacles…

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

Actually the gateway has nothing to do with that (and is easily bypassed). Additionally, unlocking odometers isn't inherently illegal. Altering an odometer with the intent to commit fraud is. Same goes for writing and altering VINs.

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Matthew Owner/Technician
Oregon
Matthew
 

Chrysler stores 2 VIN numbers per module. One is the “original” first use VIN, one is the second replaceable vin. If the first one gets scrambled to a not useable VIN this can happen. Otherwise there is another VIN writing issue. One option might be to use Witech 2.0 and go in a do a restore vehicle configuration. That should make the new VIN acceptable. I have never found a way to fix a…

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Sam Mobile Technician
Michigan
Sam
 

Withit being a 19 I would have a hard time believing cda6 would do it. It is a sgw cat

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Manuel Diagnostician
New Jersey
Manuel
   

some modules on this chassis IMPOSSIBLE to change vin! Processor has one time programming lock when erase chip MCU is destroyed. No way to fix some of this. for power steering ecu easy to fix this problem

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Kerry Mobile Technician
Ohio
Kerry
 

Manuel, what methods or means can be used for power steering module? Bench or thru DLC?

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Manuel Diagnostician
New Jersey
Manuel
 

both are possible put your email here I’ll help you with this

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

Phillip, I know of no OBDII software that will change the VIN on this steering rack. Kevin Suttorp has done quite a bit of EEPROM and Microcontroller work on the FCA racks. If you look in Diag​.​net there should be a writeup. The solution would require removing and disassembling the EPS module, reading the EEPROM or Mapping the Microcontroller and editing the VIN.

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Jeremy Mobile Technician
New Mexico
Jeremy
 

Did you find a tool that worked on the bench? I seem to working on FCA vehicles half of the day, not by choice, and want to sponge up some knowledge.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

APNT and AEMT work on the bench. You can also use BitBox in some instances as well as physically changing or programming the EEPROM in GPEC ECUs.

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Jeremy Mobile Technician
New Mexico
Jeremy
 

Thank you for the info! Forgot about APNT, will probably go that route. I have opened a few early NGC's to modify the prom and had success but smoked that last one due to a short under the 'flexible board'. if you get a chance check out the APNT creator's youtube. That guy has some savage and honest repair techniques, my confidence increased five-fold after seeing how much trauma these boards…

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