Needed resouce for programming information

Dave Mobile Technician Ironton, Ohio Posted   Latest  
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Programming
2012 Ford F-150 Platinum 3.5L (T) 6-spd (6R80)
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I have two questions that I hope you guys can educate me about. The first question is on Chrysler products. Is there any place other than the dealer parts Dept. To source the Sales codes for a particular vehicle?

The second question is about Ford TCM programming. Some units require that the solenoid strategy and IDN numbers need to be written in. The numbers are on a sticker on the case. The problem is when the sticker is missing or to faded to read. I know that the solenoid strategy is on the valve body but where can the IDN be found? I ran into this with a used transmission that had a new valve body. 

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Benjamin Diagnostician
Murfreesboro, Tennessee
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As for your second question, the location of the ID depends on the transmission. What transmission are you referring to?

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Keith Diagnostician
Collinsville, Oklahoma
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Sales codes for Chrysler can be found in the WiTech tool that can be used on 2010 MY and up with a J2534 device, it is available in short term subscriptions. It can be found when looking at the vehicle information. Then if you would like a breakdown of each sales code they can be found HERE Your second question is a little more lengthy. Start with reading this free webcast document HERE…

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
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When the file is downloaded you may still need to locate the Body ID number for entry in FJDS. I have not been able to enter the file through FJDS/IDS without the Strategy ID (13 Digit) and also the Body ID (7,8,10,12 digit) Some of the 6R transmission do not have the ID stamped or etched on the valve body and if the tag is missing you will need to replace the valvebody. This web lookup tool

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Dave Mobile Technician
Ironton, Ohio
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Thanks , this is pretty much what I have ran into.

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
Kirkwood, Pennsylvania
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Hi Dave: If you think about how Sales Codes are changed, you have the answer to your first question. In my area, the dealer charges around $25 to update the Sales Code on the server. I should caution you though. Things were not always done this way. Star Mobile Desktop Client could change configuration but the server didn't know this. As far as it knew, the Sales Codes were what was listed. So

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Benjamin Diagnostician
Murfreesboro, Tennessee
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For a 6R80 see the attached picture...

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Keith Diagnostician
Collinsville, Oklahoma
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It looks like we all use the same document!

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Dean Owner
Albany, New York
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Dave, Both the IDN and solenoid strategy can be found on the valve body. This is the 7 digit number, and the 13 digit number is on the other side of the valve body, nowhere near the QR code. There is also a 13 digit code above the QR code, but that is not the one you want, from what I recall. Hth, Dean

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Dave Mobile Technician
Ironton, Ohio
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Thanks guys, seems like everyone but me knew where to find this info. The Ford truck I was working on required a 13digit strategy code and a 12 alphanumeric IDN.

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John Owner
Medford, New York
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Dave, Chrysler sales code access has been a real thorn in my side. Dealer Connect will have sales codes when you build a vehicle by VIN. Tech Authority will not unfortunately. I have discussed this very issue with the powers that be along with STAR cases. The playing field is not level. When I need sales codes for a VIN on Chrysler I need to phone a friend. Maybe one day.........

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Henry Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
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Good Morning Dave, For your first question on Chrysler unfortunately, the dealer is the only source. They do not release that information to the public. For the second question, Below I have attached an image of what the SSID and BID look like on the a valve body for Ford. The top is the Solenoid strategy and below is the Body ID.

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John Owner
Medford, New York
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The real fun happens with used transmissions, third party sources for valve bodies, and uninformed techs that throw the revised solenoid sticker in the trash. I go through it all the time. Then its time to tell them to crack it open. Most shops don't like this answer.

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Dave Mobile Technician
Ironton, Ohio
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Been there before, John. It is always a challenge when any shop plays mix and match parts on any system.

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