If Tech Job Listings look like this, Then…

Craig Service Advisor Grand Rapids, Michigan Posted   Latest  

I like to look at job listings for technicians, not for the average shop, but for as far into the next gen of service that I can. Helps keep good insight into what shop business models may need to encompass.

This is some of the text from a job listing for Waymo. Posted on their careers page. waymo​.​com/joinus/929469

Vehicle Tech:

In this role, you’ll:

  • Install, repair, and troubleshoot Self-driving System components, including sensors, modules, and integrated sensor stacks
  • Run scripts in Linux operating systems to test components and determine root cause of issues
  • Be familiar with OEM maintenance items, including: brake systems, oil change intervals, tire replacement/wear indicators, HV coolant systems, HVAC recovery, on-board modules and OBD communication
  • Record all repair work through excellent documentation practices
  • Clearly communicate with team members and management

We’d like you to have:

  • BA/BS or 4 years of experience in automotive repair/testing or equivalent in similar field
  • Diagnostic troubleshooting/experience with OEM systems
  • Experience working with HV/hybrid systems
  • Experience running scripts and working with Linux based systems
  • Ability to adhere to a schedule of operating times for the assigned shift including, but not limited to, working on holidays and shift rotations

Listings like this make me wonder:

How much are technicians like this worth to a company like Waymo?

How many techs well trained in root cause analysis are good with routine tire or oil changes? Willing to do? (Good with OE systems doesn't mean good with tires!)

How many techs trained in OE systems are comfortable working in Linux? (albeit running scripts is a LOT easier than writing them)

How many techs that do fit this bill are willing to be on-call for holidays?

When, where, and will I get the repair info on those integrated sensor stacks?

Listings like this prove to me that:

AC/HVAC and Tires are things all shops should be thinking about staying well equipped for and highly efficient with.

Training in root cause analysis still can't be stressed enough. Advanced computer skills are something we need to see training in for our industry and in our schools. (Are we still not teaching basic coding in High-School?)

It's been asked before... but will we require a night shift? Automated Vehicles will be less busy at night, making evenings the ideal time for service.

Hybrids. In case you haven't noticed, they are a thing, and will be for awhile.

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Michael Diagnostician
Holt, Michigan
Michael
 

Wow that is a posting that will be hard to fill and they probably should think about growing there own tech. That tech they are searching for should be easily a 6 figure kind of tech

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Craig Manager
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Craig
 

I hope who-ever is goes for this has the integrity to demand nothing less.

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Bruce Technician
Spring Hill, Tennessee
Bruce
 

My guess is their definition of well trained in root cause analysis is different than ours. Because someone that is truly well trained isn't going to take a job that requires doing tires

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Martin Instructor
Burnaby, British Columbia
Martin
 

HI Craig. In my opinion, the ad appears overall to be reasonably well-written, if holding back some key information that is reserved for the applicants selected for an interview. The "bait" has been set with a teaser or two to "test the waters". The use of advanced technical jargon may be enough to scare away the incapables, but attract the wannabees who have some exposure to technical work in

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Craig Manager
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Craig
 

Excellent take away. And thanks for those links! I like your perspective on the add. One of my favorite techs that worked for us took a job at Tesla. Great guy, great attitude, and smart. Though, aside from his electrical knowledge his diagnostic experience was still fractional to that of my brothers at the time. Talking with that tech from time to time we learned that the frequency one has

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Rudy Technician
Montebello, California
Rudy
 

Well thats a company under the same umbrella as Google,so it will probably be around for awhile. Sounds really intriguing. Unfortunately, mechanics of any skill set are generally all treated the same, and the pay scale is usually pretty poor.

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Craig Manager
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Craig
 

Very intriguing. If I were younger and not busy supporting more people than myself, that's the sort of tech job I'd angle towards, regardless of the early pay. Frankly, that level of intrigue is what I wish we could offer the young learners now in our current shops. Clean cool tech changing the way things are done... sounds fun to me!

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Martin Instructor
Burnaby, British Columbia
Martin
 

Turning the clock back 50 years to when I started out in my first job as an "adult" without a care in the world and without any responsibilities, I agree that the income would have been rather less important than the excitement of venturing into exciting territory with endless possibilities!

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Thomas Technician
Manassas Park, Virginia
Thomas
 

Excuse me for not knowing, but what is Linux and how many techs are going to have a BA/BS?

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Craig Manager
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Craig
 

Linux is an operating system kernel. A lot of people aren't aware of it, but Android is based off linux. It's a general use operating system. Our Hunter-roadforce balancer uses it. Very versatile.

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William Diagnostician
Ashland, Virginia
William
 

Someone with all these qualifications, especially Linux, is probably not interested in doing this job. With the holiday/shifts requirement, I suspect they are not really ready to pay what this person will want. It's one thing to push buttons on a laptop to run pre-written tests on a vehicle (we do that now all day long). It's quite another to KNOW Linux and be able to write/debug in it. A good

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Craig Manager
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Craig
 

Trouble means problems. Problems have solutions. Focusing on the solutions is where the opportunity is. I think the brightest techs have a bright future, given their short supply.

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William Diagnostician
Ashland, Virginia
William
 

Maybe....maybe not. We have been hearing that same line of thinking since 1970, and nothing has changed as far as tech pay, benefits, etc. I did an analysis of techs earning in my shop over the last 16 years. The pay was good, but not great, after subtracting tool costs, hours sent training with no pay, etc. The sad thing is, I was making pretty much the same thing in 1980! So things really have

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Jeffrey Technician
Claremont, California
Jeffrey
 

Honestly, I personally have a BS, in computer science, do tires, and software development. If these cars will allow me to interact with them from a Linux command bash terminal, my next question is, is it debian? Then i'd ask about python.

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