Limp mode 2018 Acura TLX

Nate Diagnostician California Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2018 Acura TLX 2.4L (K24W7) 8-spd (MDSA)
P0303 — Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
Limp Mode Under Heavy Acceleration

Car only acts up under heavy load on accel. No active misfires but will throw the P0303 code (blinking MIL) and then goes into limp mode. I searched for TSBs and Identifix. I couldn't find any protocols for what would cause limp mode. Any help is appreciated.

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Lazer Owner/Technician
New Jersey
Lazer
 

I had similar on a Honda, Try doing a crankshaft relearn.

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Nate Diagnostician
California
Nate
 

Good idea! I just tried it, test drove it… same thing :(

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Richard Service Manager
California
Richard
   

Could just be a bad coil pack or plug. Switch one with another. Any cylinder deactivation should produce a limp mode.

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Nate Diagnostician
California
Nate
 

Its highly doubt it is a misfire. It goes into limp mode. Plus, I already tried swapping coils. I think something very odd is going on

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Rudy Technician
Utah
Rudy
 

Doesnt matter if its a real misfire or not, if the PCM perceives a misfire it will go into limp mode. Id try to figure out why its setting the misfire code….

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Nate Diagnostician
California
Nate
 

Thats an odd PCM strategy. I've never heard of a single cylinder misfire causing limp mode. Especially for a Honda. Do you work for Honda?

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Caleb Diagnostician
Indiana
Caleb
 

Its a 2018. Many things have changed in the last few years. If the limp happens only after P0303 sets then seems like the P0303 is the cause. I think your overthinking it. Not saying that to be cocky or demeaning. Just to encourage.

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Rudy Technician
Utah
Rudy
   

Nate- I dont work for Honda. Im just a very good, well informed diag tech.(who still stumbles occasionally) The strategy has been in place for the better part of 15 years with Honda products. Ive experienced it more than a few times…

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Geoff Diagnostician
Hawaii
Geoff
 

hmmm. Guess I haven't had one that NEW yet vato. ;-)

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Sherman Owner
Texas
Sherman
 

My old 2009 Camry had an intermittent #1 injector. It would misfire terribly, flash the check engine light, then run on only a couple of cylinders! (limp home) There! Now you've heard about it! Peace!

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Robert Technician
Michigan
Robert
 

The timing chain tensioners are junk is it making any noise ?

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Nate Diagnostician
California
Nate
 

No timing chain noise. I dont think it is mechanical because I can clear the codes and its fine again.

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Caleb Diagnostician
Indiana
Caleb
 

The P0303 ia causing the limp mode. Diag the P0303.

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Matthew Technician
Nova Scotia
Matthew
 

Prodemand DTC discription says a type 1 misfire “17-89 misfires per 200 RPM” will cause the “high speed fueling” be shut down from the PCM and sets a pending DTC until a second drive cycle which sets a permanent DTC, seems this will only affect higher engine RPM events.

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Benjamin Owner/Technician
Georgia
Benjamin
 

inspect #3 spark plug. Swap #3 plug with one from a different cylinder and see if the misfire changes cylinders. Check map voltage at idle, ac off as well as any other loads off and in park. Make sure its not in limp mode. Should be .85v if it is .9 or higher or if voltage is fluctuating, check for tight exhaust valves. Also try performing af cylinder balance test to see if you have an injector…

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Alex Owner/Technician
Washington
Alex
 

Had an accord with IMA. Similar issue however, pulled one of the back coils and it was oil saturated, it actually killed the coil. Fixed the leak (pinched plug well gasket) and new coil. No misfire now, but threw p0303 again and would flash the CEL on heavy load. It ran great with no counts in mode 6. I found there was a software update for that exact issue. Customer stated it has done that…

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Glenn Owner/Technician
Texas
Glenn
 

Hello Nate, If you have the capability, run an in cylinder pressure test and post your findings. Do the effected cylinder, then do a known good one for comparison. Flashing MIL then goes into limp mode is the computer trying to prevent CAT damage from a perceived dead cylinder issue.

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Azeez Owner
Nigeria
Azeez
 

I would swap spark plug, ignition coil and injector of cylinder 3. Also check compression of the cylinder 3. Internal faults in solenoids causes limp. I suspect either ignition coil or injector are have internal fault when under load. Resistance check, and compare to known good ones

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Rick Diagnostician
Connecticut
Rick
 

Any chance we are having a valve adjustment issue like on older models where valve seat sinks slightly into head and you get misfires you cannot feel ?

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Rick Diagnostician
Connecticut
Rick
 

What is the mileage ?

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Rick Diagnostician
Connecticut
Rick
 

freeze frame data ?

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Nate Diagnostician
California
Nate
 

This is what I am suspecting at the moment. Although, typically, when you have tight valves you will feel a misfire on a cold start, not heavy load.

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Jim Owner/Technician
North Carolina
Jim
 

Mileage please, and what are fuel trims doing during the event? Lean/ rich? Possible partial clogged injector? Possible restricted cat?

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