Where do you guys go to get scan tool/programming training?

Buck Technician Eugene, Oregon Posted   Latest  

Hello Group,

Between the shop and techs we have a number of Snap On and Autel scan tools, and still find holes in coverage and abilities. We have a few fleet accounts and our 2 largest seem to have late model Fords almost exclusively, ranging from passenger cars to Transits up to F450s, both gas and diesels. Wanting to provide complete diag ability and programming, we decided it was time to step up to a factory level scan tool. We recently bought a new IDS and laptop. One of the guys spent a couple of years at a shop previously that had an IDS, but other than that it's all new to us. The last factory level tools I've used were a DRB-III and a Tech II, so that tells you how old I am.

Where do you go to get the proper training and service info for a factory level tool? Specifically I want to get to know the ins and outs of programming, from the simple stuff like key programming or rack and pinion replacement to programming powertrain or body modules. We've replaced modules before with Autel but I want to know what all the IDS can do and how to do it best.

As a side note, we do not have a J-box or other aftermarket programming capabilities. I have heard mixed reviews of generic programming, am I mistaken in that belief? We will be looking into expanding abilities in the future, is a pass-through device something worth considering?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

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Mike Instructor
Fresno, California
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I offer hands on IDS training. Send me an email and we can continue the discussion. My email is …

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Buck Technician
Eugene, Oregon
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Thanks Mike I'll be in touch.

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Marlin Technician
Estacada, Oregon
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IDS is so easy to use that almost no training is required. Programming with it is ridiculously easy, and it tells you exactly what to do along the way. I think that you can still find some videos on YouTube about using some of the more complex features. Are you considering an generic pass-through device for Ford vehicles, or others? IDS is better in every way for Fords.

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Buck Technician
Eugene, Oregon
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Thanks Marlin. Maybe I'm over reacting a bit. We've had it for a couple of weeks and it does seem pretty straight-forward to use. Figuring out the icons and acronyms was the biggest step for me. Friday a shop down the street brought us a 16 Fusion to have some new keys programmed. We started the procedure and found we need a NASTF registration to do that. So we've started that process. But I…

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Richard Technician
Stony Brook, New York
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I think the hard part is you have to keep plugging in the IDS and not reaching for your other tools. Then you will get more comfortable with the tool and explore all the ins and outs for yourself. You may have someone with you for a few hours showing you some stuff, and that could help, but as soon as he walks out the door you will suddenly find yourself in a new situation and have to figure it…

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Albin Diagnostician
Leavenworth, Washington
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Good move on the IDS. I have a few AM scan tools, and when it comes to working on a Ford vehicle, the IDS comes out. It is a very fast scan tool, and easy to use. Programming is very easy too. For training, Mike Cleary can take care of that, along with a bunch of other Ford training.

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Allan Owner
Sterling, Virginia
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Honestly I pushed the buttons and saw what happened. You can’t be scared. Get in there and explore. You’ll learn a lot more than a class when your butt is all puckered up

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Allan Instructor
Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Mike Cleary does IDS training. Well worth looking into.

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Mike Mobile Technician
Charleston, South Carolina
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I would agree with everyone. IDS is pretty straightforward... at least when it's working correctly! Lately they have had some issues with the latest software. Robby Schrimsher also has a video posted somewhere on here that shows some of the functions very well. Learn how to delete old IDS sessions (just permanently deleting saved session files from a folder) when you run into issues. I…

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Eric Owner/Technician
Peoria, Illinois
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Hi Buck, If you are going to be attending Vision this year, The Driveability Guys will be teaching a /Diagnosing Timing issues and Programming Class on TH. below is the course description. T3-AB - Diagnosing Timing Issues: Ignition and Valve - AND - Intro to Module Programming (LIVE CAR) Ignition and valve timing issues are common many of today's vehicles. Using a DSO, these problems can be…

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Michael Technician
Amherst, Massachusetts
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Bruce Amacker at turbotraining​.​com does an excellent job on powerstroke engine training. His classes and books and videos are very well done.

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Martin Instructor
Burnaby, British Columbia
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Hi Buck. While IDS is pretty intuitive overall, there are benefits to be had from a training session from someone with Mike's experience and expertise. I am all for pushing buttons to gain some experience, but there will always be some functions in tools that many are unaware of, that can make the difference between being a user and a "power" user. I often encounter the same situation with…

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Dennis Owner/Technician
Plymouth, Michigan
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FYI the autel probably would have programmed the keys

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
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IDS is almost a requirement for some Ford Diagnostics. The Ford VCM II can be used as a J2534 as well as with IDS. Purchasing the VCM II will give you J2534 functionality as well as Full Ford functionality.

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