Misfires only at idle
This is an inline 5 cylinder engine.
The scanner misfire data shows cylinder 2 misfiring at idle only. The shop did a compression test, replaced plugs and a COP and they called me in.
The red CH B is a First Look Sensor connected to the intake manifold, to compare each cylinder's intake stroke's vacuum pulls, while cranking and cylinder 2 shows a repeating pressure pulse.
The tan CH D is the starter amps with a repeating low compression in cyl 2
Ray
Try an in cylinder transducer test both cranking and running
Another beautiful capture Ray. What's sad here, is that they had the right idea doing a compression check, but they either did it wrong, or their gage doesn't work. ;-) I don't have an FLS but my leak-down tester would have found that bad valve, and I bet a 50 year old vacuum gage, connected with the engine running, would have found it too. And fast!
In order I always do clear flood test, relative compression test, in-cylinder transducer waveform analysis compared to good cylinder. Great convenience when the cylinder is under a plenum(the FLS). Good share Ray 👍 maybe they didn't keep an eye on how many compression strokes it took to reach its max compression. I keep a very close eye the first two strokes, even a leaky cylinder can reach
Your right, they must have done something wrong with their compression test or the compression gauge isn't working right. They have a vacuum gauge, but they couldn't find a small vacuum fitting on the intake. I didn't have to remove the air intake assembly and the spark plug to do a cylinder leakage test, because the transducer in the intake shows a valve leak. If I suspected a cylinder with
EXACTLY!!!!! When I speak to people on the phone that can't find a misfire, they often tell me that the compression test is "good". I don't remember "good" being on the face of the gauge. I try to explain to them that an engine only had one chance to make compression. the cycles aren't suck, squeeze. squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, bang, blow. So why test like
That's a nice capture Ray. There is a lot of information in those two waves.
leaking intake valve?