Ford valve body solenoid strategy

Paul Mobile Technician Salem, Massachusetts Posted   Latest   Edited  
Question
Programming
2014 Ford F-250 Super Duty XL 6.2L (6) 6-spd (6R140)
Can't Overwrite Solenoid Idn And Strategy

Shop installed a used transmission from a 2013 F350 SD. Same engine and drivetrain. Both are 6R140 transmissions. IDS message"value is incorrect. Have triple checked the tag. Numbers are correct. Have done many without issue. looking for input. Thanks in advance. PCM has the latest calibration installed and IDS is the most current version.

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Teddy Technical Support Specialist
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Teddy
 

The used transmission may have have the valve body replaced and they didn't change the sticker.

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Steven Owner/Technician
Rosholt, South Dakota
Steven
 

We had one similar had to put a new valve body in it.

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Dana Technician
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Dana
 

It's possible that the main control was replaced in the used transmission and the tag was not updated to reflect the new strategy numbers. This could be the reason why you are getting an incorrect message when attempting to update the strategy with IDS.

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Mike Instructor
Fresno, California
Mike
 

When are you getting this IDS message? Are you referring to the tag number on the transmission case?

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Paul Mobile Technician
Salem, Massachusetts
Paul
 

Hi Mike. I'm getting the "value is incorrect" message when I hit update after filling in the correct numbers in the required fields. Yes the tag on the transmission case with the solenoid strategy and IDN numbers.

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
Chris
 

Typically when ids or fjds comes up as invalid the words on the strategy and id screen turn red for the invalid numbers. Is the Valve body ID different from the original?

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Mike Instructor
Fresno, California
Mike
 

Thanks, Paul. The others who have posted have already pretty much stated what I would have told you. I hope you get this resolved quickly.

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David Technical Support Specialist
Ann Arbor, Michigan
David
 

If by "Have triple checked the tag. Numbers are correct" you referring to the tag on the Trans Body, as Teddy stated, the valve body may have been replaced at one time, and the new sticker that came with the valve body never made it to the trans tag. I have seen this a lot. If the solenoid ID and strategy numbers on the tag are different than what is actually stamped on the valve body, that can

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Paul Mobile Technician
Salem, Massachusetts
Paul
   

Thanks Dave and your fellow Drew Tech co workers. I should have mentioned that the current numbers shown on the IDS match the tag on the transmission that was removed. Also should note the vehicle only has 35,000 miles on it. Shop stated reason for changing was customer ran the original unit very low on fluid. Hey, I'm only the programming and diag guy ! I know this doesn't mean valvebody hasn't

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
Chris
 

Contact the dealer to identify if the 2013 and 2014 valvebodies are interchangeable. Just because it is the same build transmission does not mean that the valvebody ID is correct for the calibration in that year's PCM

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Lane Mobile Technician
Louisville, Kentucky
Lane
 

The numbers are also, usually, stamped onto the connector body sticking out of the transmission. Although small and sometimes difficult to read, it’s a easy way to double check the numbers without dropping the pan.

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Dustin Owner/Technician
Cleveland, Oklahoma
Dustin
 

Drop the pan and see what the numbers are on the valve body. Last used one we installed, I had to drop pan and get correct numbers.

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
Chris
 

Paul, Has this issue been resolved?

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Paul Mobile Technician
Salem, Massachusetts
Paul
 

As of this post no. The shop released the vehicle to the customer with a required return appointment this week. I have advised the shop to swap the valvebody from the original transmission after verifying that the cal numbers on the valvebody match the transmission tag. I verified the tag numbers are the same as programmed in the pcm. The client shop stated that the original transmission was not

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
Chris
 

You would need to reference the part numbers in the parts catalogue to compare. I am not sure of all the model year changes to the transmission. If the Valvebody ID is different across two module years, there is a difference in the part. At the very least inspect the case to valve body sealing points and verify the plumbing is the same. The cases typically have a cast number somewhere

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