I wanted to share a few videos with some ADAS content.
Here are two shorts that I use to educate my clients on these systems, primarily forward facing radar.
On the collision side, we see technicians and writers alike, unaware of the systems that they are working with, and the catastrophic potential of overlooking these systems and calibrations. On the repair side we see technicians afraid to go near these vehicles because of the potential liability. Our goal is to slowly bridge that gap with education.
I would love to hear some feedback from those in the repair industry!
With all the hacks in this industry ,and the pass the blame game this can become very problematic. Imagine fixing one of these and the shop mechanics bend or break something. No wonder why tesla does not want anyone else working on there vehicles. It is about time for us to be considered professionals and get the hacks out.
I agree! Too many shops won’t invest in space, equipment and training to calibrate these systems.
Not sure but i have been doing ADAs for two years now and all I can say big money in back to be made so i definitely recommend to investing in this type equipment soon will have you tube channel with 100 of different cars that we did to show that is not that hard to do
I agree, for now. I don't know if you've noticed, but some of the dealerships are doing calibrations for a song; tremendously devaluing our investments for so many pieces of equipment, space, etc.
Hi Matt, which dealerships? European makes, or asian, or mostly north american? I like to believe that even tho dealerships may have cheaper prices than aftermarket on any particular service doesnt have to mean that we need to have similar prices.
Seemingly across the board, but specifically domestic and Asian. Generally, I agree, but regardless of what we like to believe, or in our case hope, when you are charging twice what the dealer is for the same service (and it's one that would be really difficult to prove or provide value to justify it) it villainizes you/us. A few of my friends in the mobile business have noticed it as well…
Yea you make some fair observations. It happens quite regularly I think, for us , we get compared to “what the dealer will do it for” in any job not just ADAS stuff. And often times, are apples really being compared to apples? Unrelated things like convenience, ease of access and such… are not in the equation when the call comes back that “the dealer said they would do that job for xx dollars…
The majority of dealers and collision repair shops are not set-up or equipped to perform calibrations. Last survey that I saw stated that only 2% of collision shops perform in-house calibrations. In an effort to overcome the “your price is too high” issue, we use a tool called Billable Genie on the Variable Rate System site. It shows subscribers the high/low/average amounts paid for specific…
The dealers near me are around $250-300 for a calibration. I've had several calls to quote jobs that were going to be compared to the dealer. For that price I'm fine letting them do it for the time being.
Often, and especially early on, the dealers were not even performing these calibrations. Or in one instance a local dealer had the lines pre-drawn on the floor and I would pull a car in to where the tire was supposed to be, hit calibrate, get the code to clear, and back out. Honda had a representative at ASE that explained their position of training their lube technicians on ADAS calibrations…
And don‘t forget about the OE rep that didn’t know about the curb weight requirements, meaning that all fluids be at capacity during calibration.
Great videos Mike, who did the second video? I would love to get one for my website.
That video was made as part of a pilot program for mobile techs that will include some pretty cool stuff. If all goes well it will be available for companies to license as part of the program in the near future.
Nice demonstration Mike! I still have and reference your first ADAS booklet that you sold me when you were first starting to do training… Glad to see this direction is working out for you!
Thank you! So far, so good. Hope you're doing well!
Great Job Mike! You are right on with the educational approach. It all starts “up front”. An October 2020 study of 100 estimates found 85 missed any line item for required advanced driver assistance system calibration. Overall, the estimators missed 88 percent of the 122 calibrations needed on the 2014-20 vehicles, according to the survey. Some of the 100 vehicles surveyed needed more than one…
Thanks Tony! You hit the nail on the head. I've been pretty adamant about not using scare tactics to push shops to calibrate but at the same time, cars like this Odyssey are being put back into service so maybe that isn't the right approach. I love the idea if ADASTHINK. It would be awesome if the industry adopted it as an SOP but we'll just have to wait and see
Hi Mike, I teach Automotive Service courses at … in Ann Arbor, Michigan. One of my courses is focusing on ADAS systems this week and this was great supplemental content that I shared with some students. Thanks so much for taking the time to post this!