Used or bypass Security system?

Phillip Diagnostician Anchorage, Alaska Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2006 Dodge Durango SLT 5.7L (2) 4-spd (42RLE)—1D4HB48286F176071
Lights Flash

So I got a call this weekend that was interesting to me. The client states that when that the vehicle starts and runs, but the lights flash. The lights will continue to stay flashing till the vehicle is shut off and doors are locked with key/fob. They had taken the vehicle to the local dealer and the dealer had diagnose the Skim being bad. The problem is the customer was told the module was on national backorder till December. Well that doesn't seem to be an option for the customer as it is her only vehicle.

So the question to me was can the skim be bypassed till a part is available or can a used Skim module be used? I’m sure the answer is no to both the questions, but since I have only ever put new skims and WCM in Dodge/Chrysler products I did not truly know the answer. I figured if anyone would know, it be the wiser people then me on here.

UPDATE: Realized I never updated this. The vehicle was fixed in like 30-45 minutes. I ended up resetting modules and doing a reconfiguration. I actually checked in with the customer twice and they are still good to go.

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Tomi Diagnostician
Chicago, Illinois
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Only possible way to do used would be eeprom. CDA might work but that requires certain tooling. I may know of some people that can help. Send me a email at …

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Jim Owner/Technician
Charlotte, North Carolina
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I have a 2007 Jeep Commander that came in yesterday, WCM intermittently locks up/ no start - same answer at dealer, no modules available until December. I have not had any luck in the past with used modules, seems they can only be programmed once, and I haven't heard of any way to bypass this system. I have looked around for a company that can "reset or service" the module, but so far nothing.

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Scott Owner/Technician
Brantford, Ontario
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Need donor skim number, should work mvp can change skim as well as dmax just plug in used with that skim modules 4 digit should be good

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hi Scott, I did not know the MVP worked to change SKIM, Good info. I just hate that AD charges so much for tokens.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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There are a few tools out there that allow you to use used SKIM. You can use CDA with CANcard tool or specific Chrysler tools, The Abrites or you can use the DMAX. If the SKIM is not CAN then my experience has been it is EEPROM only. In either case EEPROM will work. I have yet to find a single EEPROM tool that will work with all SKIM and WCM modules. Sometimes you have to keep on buying tools to…

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Andrew Technician
Provo, Utah
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STOP! This is not a problem with the SKIM! SKIM will give you a no start. What you're dealing with is a problem with the VTSS (content theft) or an aftermarket alarm that is overlayed on top of the existing system.

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Sean Owner
Cornville, Arizona
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That was my thought too. Usually when I have a vehicle with those symptoms, it's an aftermarket alarm that has gone haywire.

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Phillip Diagnostician
Anchorage, Alaska
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Understand I have not looked at the car. I'm just getting some initial information. Yes before I would even look at her vehicle she will be informed that it is highly recommended that I look at the vehicle and confirm the SKIM is bad. But for now I want to go to her and say this is what can and can't be done if the SKIM is truly bad.

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Sean Owner
Cornville, Arizona
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Like others have said, if you have a Dmax, or mvp pro, you can use a used skim. Those devices will allow you to pull the pin from the used one.

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Richard Technician
Wpg, Manitoba
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Hi A used skim can not be used due to the VIN written in the module. I don't believe the module can be bypassed because unless the PCM see's the SKIM respond with the correct code the engine will just start and stall and eventually no longer crank. What codes are in the skim and BCM?

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Phillip Diagnostician
Anchorage, Alaska
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I have not looked at the vehicle yet. I'm just getting some preliminary information. The idea for a used module and the bypass actually was what the dealer told her she could do. Which confused me so that is why I am here asking.

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Saul Owner
Houston, Texas
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I bet you anything that you don't have the original Keyless remote? If you don't just buy one new or used, program it to the car and DONE! I just had a customer a couple of weeks ago with same problem, also all he had was the aftermarket keyless remote, After he program an original remote, all went back to normal!!!!

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Phil Technician
Las Vegas, Nevada
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I had a 2005 Durango doing the same thing at my dealership last week. It also had active fault codes, for heated seats, which the vehicle is not equipped. I checked the configuration list in the Front Control Module. It shows the vehicle is not equipped with heated seats. When I checked the configuration list in the Instrument Cluster it indicated the vehicle is equipped with heated seats…

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Richard Technician
Wpg, Manitoba
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Good diagnosis!!. Just out of interest did any of the modules have differing original and present V.I.N numbers?

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Phil Technician
Las Vegas, Nevada
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The only module that had a different Original VIN# was the ESM(electronic shift module). But the current VIN was correct. Several of the modules had question marks(???????????) in the Current VIN column instead of a VIN#. Chrysler has said that is not a problem.

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Phillip Diagnostician
Anchorage, Alaska
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Realized I never updated this. The vehicle was fixed in like 30-45 minutes. I ended up resetting modules and doing a reconfiguration. I actually checked in with the customer twice and they are still good to go.

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