NASTF/SDRM/VSP Requirements

Tayyab Owner/Technician North Carolina Posted   Latest   Edited  

With the rise automakers restricting immobilizer programming and other types of programming that require a locksmith license, I would like some help registering. 

I called NASTF couple of times, but each time I get a different answer. So if somebody can clarify this please.

I work in NC, does the state require a locksmith license to become a VSP? I can't seem to find a definite answer. I program modules and recently got into keys. Newer Toyota and other makes require a NASTF account and Tech stream to get pin codes. 

I just want to be able to program modules and keys without having to go through AIR or OPUS. 

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Bob Technician
Massachusetts
Bob
 

I found this link on google. If you scroll down near the bottom you will find a list of states that require a license. NC is on the list locksmithingschool​.​com

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Rusty Owner/Technician
Massachusetts
Rusty
 

The process and requirements are pretty well spelled out on the NASTF website

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
   

Google: ncbold​.​com (Economic Development Partnership of North Carolina license list) nclocksmithboard​.​org/wp-content/upl…​.​pdf (Locksmith license application)

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Matthew Owner/Technician
Oregon
Matthew
 

Unfortunately it's not as cut and dry in some states as it in in others. For instance Bob's list shows Oregon as needing a locksmith license, which is true unless you're doing automotive locks AND you don't advertise locksmith services. Most states don't differentiate between residential/commercial locksmiths and automotive security. Some do. Originally Oregon wanted me to have a contractor's…

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Bruce Owner/Technician
Texas
Bruce
   

Read up on the laws in your State regarding what services require you to have a locksmith license. Using web search engines is the best way to find out. For instance, in Texas anyone can cut and program car keys, but if you manipulate a lock, repin, recode, replace, then you have to be a licensed locksmith or a mechanic working at his place of employment (not in someone's driveway). First…

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Dave Owner/Technician
California
Dave
 

I had a similar experience with NASTF in California. The requirements in California are much more onerous, various bonds and contractor licenses required that have no application to automotive. NASTF finally decided I didn't need to have the locksmith license and we've been renewing for years on that decision. When the system asks for my locksmith license when renewing my VSP account I just…

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Robert Owner/Technician
Florida
Robert
 

Nastf will require what the county and state your registering i require. Where I am the county has a license the state does not.I am required by Nastf to have the license. If my address was in the next county over I would not need it. Only the occ license and insurance

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

Tayyab and others, The states, counties and cities that require locksmith licenses are listed on the last page of the Security Registry VSP Terms and conditions conveniently located as a link at the bottom of every page on the NASTF website. sdrm​.​nastfsecurityregistry​.​org/assets/NASTF_T…​.​pdf Those terms also have links directly to the State websites…

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

Unfortunately, this doesn't always matter. Here in AZ, the only businesses that are required to be licensed are hair salons and massage parlors. But that doesn't stop NASTF from harassing me during my renewal every single time.

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

Here, I am going to help you so that doesn't happen anymore. Go to this page and watch the video from the last VSP meeting so your agent can provide the correct insurance information when your policy renews wp​.​nastf​.​org/?page_id=798 Also, I attached the checklist for renewals and new applications that outlines specifically the insurance information that has been the…

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

How did we go from licensure to insurance? Proving insurance is easy. Convincing the NASTF renewal agent that I don't need a license is anther. Every year that I renew, I get a rejection warning because I didn't upload my “Copy of Locksmith License” that I do not possess nor am I required to possess in the state of Arizona. I then get suspended for some number of days until my appeals rise…

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Bob Technician
Massachusetts
Bob
 

Jeff, There is no license required in Massachusetts either. What I have done everytime is just write “No License Required in Mass” on a piece of paper. I take a picture of it and upload it. It has always been accepted.

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

Excellent suggestion - thanks!

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

Bob, No need. When we very first launched back in October of 2018 SDRM was very insistent about Locksmith License no matter where you were. We fixed that problem by January of 2019. Now we rely on the VSP to know if they need to upload or not and our background checking process verifies. That should save you a step on renewal. Thank you!

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

Jeff, I find no record that the button for copy of locksmith license was ever pushed by us asking you for it. Our entire team has the states that require locksmith licenses. The only time this ever gets difficult is when they are trying to figure out the business model of someone in a state that does require a LS license. What I did find is that we requested both a Certificate of insurance 5…

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
   

“Proof of good standing” was added as a requirement after I was bugged about my license. (A dumb requirement, BTW - you guys can get that yourself, eliminating the possibility of fraud.) And its in addition to, not instead of for people in licensure states. And I wasn't “asked” for it. I just had my access turned off and had to figure it out on my own. No one contacted me. The insurance thing…

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Steve Diagnostician
Ohio
Steve
 

Hi donny. My name is steve, svs automotive. I just read this thread. I have a vsp license since the beginning. After reading this thread, I live in ohio and looked up lock… requirements. “No license required" so my question is, how does this work for me as far as acquiring immobilizer codes, and the process? Am I to understand that I do not need to use vsp reqirements? When renewal comes…

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

Steve, The vehicle security registry is the method by which techs can become credentialed to access the security data - Immobilizer and key codes - from automaker databases. So to do those things you would need a VSP credential. The locksmith license piece we are talking about is that NASTF's required to verify compliance with all Federal, State and local laws when we provide credentials. In…

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Steve Diagnostician
Ohio
Steve
 

Hi Donnie,on another note, when NASTF sends me a request for updated forms, could you work on this process to smooth out a couple of kinks. For example, when a NASTF requests an updated vendors license and I forward an email attachment FROM my county auditor's office, they will not accept it because the date the license was issued still shows 1997: but the email from the auditor's office shows…

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

Steve, Thanks for the note. I will ask the registry manager to contact you and work out a solution. Our reasoning for the demonstration of current business is that we have received many attempts by scammers to take over a business ID after it is no longer in operation. With regard for the taxes, yes, that is our last ditch effort document in hopes that a preparer in effect verifies the…

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Bruce Owner/Technician
Texas
Bruce
   

So Donny, If a Nation wide company is getting VSP access to NASTF and then they use it in a criminal way in Texas, does that mean you suspend them or only if the DPS in Texas catches them? The issue I had last year with one of my trucks being repaired at a collision shop is the incident that I am referring. This large company, whom you felt I was unprofessional for mentioning on DN, is still to…

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Tayyab Owner/Technician
North Carolina
Tayyab Resolution
 

Thank you all for the great responses. This is very helpful and great information. Hopefully it can help others.

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Dennis Owner/Technician
Michigan
Dennis
 

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

I've got the 508 (same as the 608, but without the superfluous scantool functionality) and its pretty damn good. It has some weird service “holes”, but other cheap Chinese tools (CKP/SKP/SBB) usually cover it.

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Bruce Owner/Technician
Texas
Bruce
 

Dennis, These are great tools to get the job done without the hassles of NASTF, but they will not do everything and if you are not careful and do not document vehicle ownership in using them, you could wind up part of a criminal investigation and charged if you inadvertently aid in a vehicle theft. Even when doing lock outs, I have to verify vehicle ownership before giving the keys to the…

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Rudy Technician
Utah
Rudy
 

Tayyab- IM608. (or 508) Seriously. It will do most keys and the keys it cant do now are probably coming in future updates.

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Donny Manager
Colorado
Donny
 

A couple comments to add here to many great ones in the post. It is different for every state seemingly. There is a list of states which require locksmith licenses in the NASTF SDRM Terms and Condiitons near the very end. You can find that by clicking on the link at the bottom of all the nastf​.​org pages. Also, Please have a look at our Hot Tips sheet. It is constantly updated to…

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Bruce Owner/Technician
Texas
Bruce
 

Now, more than a year later, you are letting in LSID and VSP holders? Person to person? I am sure I would not qualify as I am too vocal and will most likely not be allowed. Even though I have done remote programming in the past and am gearing up for a new venture in just such a business.

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