Footwell Module

Ian Owner/Technician Thunder Bay, Ontario Posted   Latest  
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2010 Mini Cooper 1.6L (N12B16A) 6-spd (GA6F21WA)

2010 MINI COOPER. We have diagnosed a failed footwell module. Now looking into programming, we have been told there is a high failure rate during programming and if it fails we will need to just order a new module and try again. This module is $900 and do not want to take a chance. What has everyone else experience been with this.

It is Drew Technologies that does the programming remotely for us, and i received that info from them directly. They also stated if programming fails it is not their responsibility and i would have to purchase the new module. I cannot flip a coin on $900!!!

Thank you

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Frank Service Manager
Las Vegas, Nevada
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Those modules were recalled (warrantied for extended time actually) bimmerscan​.​com/wp-content/upl…​.​pdf

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Stephen Educator
Bethel, Ohio
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Here's an idea. Tell the customer the issue and let them decide. If they don't want to spend $900 on a new module then don't do the work. Unless of course it is your vehicle. You can run into this problem with about any module you program. If something goes wrong, it may not be recoverable.

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Dustin Technical Support Specialist
Escondido, California
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We fix them in house if they crash. Its a simple process.

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Brandon Technician
Medina, Minnesota
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I believe the most common programming failure is updating software on the existing footwell module, not as big of a concern with a brand new one. With that said, the least amount of risk means using ISTA and an ICOM to do the programming, not the DrewTech RAP. You will also want a battery maintainer hooked up, if you weren't aware of that already.

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Phillip Diagnostician
Anchorage, Alaska
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I have not done a that particular model year, but I have had good success programming them . I have yet to do it via remotely though.

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Mark Diagnostician
Elk Grove, California
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If your paying Drew Tech $100 plus to do the programming remote why not pay the dealer and make it their responsibility? I have defiantly seen more modules bricked on BMW stuff using a J2534 rather than the factory ICOM tool. Any BMW programming runs a higher risk than usual when doing programming, and that risk goes up when doing it J2534.

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Timothy Owner
Dallas, Texas
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I used a CARDAQ +2 and ISTA for programming a 2014 X3. During the process, the programming hung up on the navigation module. I think that cost me $1600. After that disaster, I bought an ICOM. We have not had another programming failure since. It wouldn't be worth the chance for me to try programming such a sensitive system with an a/m J2534 again. Cheers to all!

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Rocky Owner
Costa Mesa, California
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New part only needs coding not programming, No issue coding the new unit to vehicle. You will need a factory tool or a good after market such as Autologic. Call …

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Allan Owner
Sterling, Virginia
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And that’s why not to use a remote service. Besides a new one is just coding. I’ve done dozens of BMW and Minis Where the FRM dies at the body shop. I assume low voltage or battery disconnect is what kills them

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Vince Technical Support Specialist
Commack, New York
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Hi, The mini cooper foot well module just needs coding. This can be done with Autologic/Drew tools or thru RAP

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Paul Technical Support Specialist
Lafayette, Colorado
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Drew Tech and RAP should know this just needs coding. For them to say it needs programming is pretty sad. Trouble with ISTA is it will want to update other modules. Doing this through J-2534 is not a good idea. I Scan can do it as well as an Autel or a Launch. Kinda hard to brick a FRM by coding. Won't a Snap-On code it? I hear a lot of people say Snappy is pretty good on BMW

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Jamie Owner/Technician
Greenwood, South Carolina
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I know jbox and BMW have a bad rep but I will say I have programed and or coded many with a jbox and haven't had no hiccups YET. I have also started doing some with autel and haven't had any trouble,but I have only done a few with it. I just got the Autologic and haven't done any with it yet so that's to be determined. I will say that an icom is on my list to get. It is so much faster and really…

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Steven Owner/Technician
Syracuse, New York
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Most of these footwell modules aren under an extended warranty for both mini and bmw. Just sent a customer with an 09 to the deale 2 weeks ago. Fully covered. Yes they do fail often when running diag as well as programming.

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Eric Technical Support Specialist
Huntington Beach, California
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Ian, Well, I can only try so hard to help you out of your jam. I called your shop 6-7 times. The first time I was able to speak with the tech working on the vehicle but he was not authorized to exchange any details about the symptom or correction attempts. I was asked to call back and speak with you in 10 minutes. When I called back the first 3 attempts were purposely hung up on, and finally…

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Ian Owner/Technician
Thunder Bay, Ontario
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Eric, i am sorry about you trying to help and my techs responding in this way. I was out of the office all afternoon. Still not back. I will be speaking with my guys about this first thing in the morning. Again so sorry. How can I contact you?

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Bruce Owner/Technician
San Antonio, Texas
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Autel does a good job on these too! Never had an issue.

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Eric Technical Support Specialist
Huntington Beach, California
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Ian, I left my # with your employees. Regardless, I will reach out to you tomorrow. I can assure you that the coins will stay in your pocket and we will put some bills in your wallet while we're at it. Regards, Eric …

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Paul Mobile Technician
Salem, Massachusetts
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Eric, with all due respect, to call out a shop owner in a public forum is extremely unprofessional. Your passive/aggressive demeanor jumps off the screen. If this is an example of what the merging of some once great companies has resulted in, I can only hope that in time they will be able better determine who they want to be the faces of their organization. I'm sure you're very knowledgeable but…

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Eric Technical Support Specialist
Huntington Beach, California
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Hello Paul, I'm so glad you are able to recognize what is and is not professionalism. I have to agree with you and admit that I was a bit hot under the collar when I typed that out. I had made some assumptions based on the phone antics and what seemed, at the time, to be a call out for a Service to take ownership of a known "hot potato" with no real urgent desire to achieve the stated…

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Paul Mobile Technician
Salem, Massachusetts
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Mr. Scharping, I was hoping that when you replied to Ian you were just having a bad day. Based on your reply it's apparent you really are the douche you came off as. When someone in your position uses a stereotypical, and what some may consider racist term as "Ahey" when talking to one of our friends from the north it goes beyond a lack of professionalism. Hopefully some one at OPUS IVS will rip…

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Benjamin Owner/Technician
Accra, Ghana
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Bro it can be repaired by dump if u r good at that

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Mihail Technician
Rockville, Maryland
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You got a good advice already. I have little to add. I also believe all modules and keys from bmw come programmed and only need coding. You can ask your dealer - they know the answer. Coding is generally very safe and I have never had any problems coding anything. Programming a bmw module is a whole other ball game. I have bricked many bmw modules - mostly CAS modules - trying to program them…

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Eric Technical Support Specialist
Huntington Beach, California
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Mihail, I generally agree with your statements. Up until recently (as early as 10 years but more prominent in the last 5 years) coding was generally a care free endeavor in the blue and white wonderland. But as your volume of E chassis vehicles gets displaced by F chassis and even a sprinkling of G chassis, coding requires an understanding of the role in the vehicle's holistic architecture and…

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Roberto Diagnostician
Fremont, California
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Hey guys, when it comes to coding this modules Am starting to fall in love with autologic, great tool and great help.

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