Question on getting started
Trying to get my mobile business going, right now I'm the diagnostics tech/lead tech at my shop, so I'm slowly getting more stuff together that I will need, I have never done any programming, and obviously I believe that will be the most of my calls knowing the techs around me. I'm looking into getting the atg book on aes wave "network diagnostics and programming" and I know alot will be learn as you go, but my question was is the book decent with at least basics.
Hey how u doing Sean? I've bought alot of atg books within the last year but haven't got that one yet because I want to get the basics down packed first and not jump the gun into something over my head. What Firestone u work at? I worked for Firestone for 7 years here In jersey 5 years ago and moved on because I was sick of the repetitive stuff. Tires,suspension, alignments etc. U know what I'm talking about. U should call up atg and ask for keena martin ext.222. They have this network diag training seminar going on these couple months. It's their latest release. Those books really helped me out alot expand my knowledge. For programming their is a bunch of guys here who are very knowledgable with that. I had to chime in as u mention atg and I always try to give very good reviews on them whenever I can. Give credit where credit is due. Take care
Thanks man, I'm 10 years in, going strong, I go to as much drivability, or networking classes. Or euro specific, hybrid classes. Never made it to an atg class yet.
Sean, i wish you the best as a fellow business owner that was also a lead tech before diving into entranepanurLand ! You need the book , the Trained By Techs group , New level Autos youtube , a Cardaq3 lol, a quality laptop full of oe software, a plan for handling the books, and high on the priority list is the biggest clientel list you can possibly start with!!! Mobile Diag can be a touch break , or a great decision. Good luck !
Going mobile is good if you do it right. First off, don't be fooled and think you will be ok with a J-box and an aftermarket scan tool. Most shops these days have them and while many suffer from lack of knowledge on their use, others struggle with the short comings of inferior tools. The business will humble you. When the business gets in full swing, you will see things that make you crazy. Most are man made with junk parts, which compound the issue of the vehicle. Also, most guys do 1 or 2 diag's a day, some that many a week.. Now I do upwards of 6-8 on any given day. They vary from simple check engine lights to full blown network issues. You will need to be confident and efficient. Proper tools get you there. If you do not plan on buying the BEST equipment, you will struggle.
I cannot emphasize enough the need for OEM scan tools. There are MANY functions in non-OE that will either not work, cause damage or lead you up dead end roads. It happens with OE however the likelyhood is less. If you want to stand out to the shops, having proper equipment and different forms of service info is required. Most guys doing mobile and doing well have a ton of OE equipment and subscriptions to OEM service info sites. Good luck.
Yes I have a whole list of tools. Slowly bying them all now, that's the downfall of getting started. But I want to do this right so as of now firestone will still pay for the training classes I find so I take advantage of that. I've always been under the impression you can't have multiple scan tool software on 1 computer but I was thinking what if you installed them on external hard drives. And I need more knowledge of the Europeans.
I have probably 10 laptops, most of them are Toughbooks with back up hard drives. I used to use partitions and such but found it to be a PIA. Now I have a hard drive for just about everything. Euro cars really aren't that bad. You have to have a good understanding of how they do things and where the information is hidden. OE tools are a must there too. When I started, VCDS was great and would get me through almost everything, now you can't even replace an SRS module without some type of component protection and/or online coding.
Atg have the best training manuals available ! If you are serious about advancing your knowledge and skills Atg provide training manuals that are written to educate the beginner and the professional. The university for auotomotive technitions does not exist ,we need to be proactive and grab hold of all opertunitys to advance our skills. Atg produce world class training manuals
Hey Sean, I haven't seen the ATG book but I would assume there is good information in those books. ATG books are usually really thorough. I was in your shoes trying to get started two years ago. I spent a lot of time studying what other mobile techs were doing and researching tools. In the end mobile diag and programming wasn't what I expected it to be but not in a bad way. One thing that I learned is that programming and diagnostics skills are two very different skillsets and for me I was good at the diag but my computer skills were lacking. If you're like me in that respect computer classes might be a good move as well. Study your market and reach out to collision shops to find out what their needs are and what solutions you can provide to them. Collision will likely be a larger portion of your revenue. OEM tools are a must in many instances but it is hard to know ahead of time which tools will be a good investment and which ones won't. For example many GM and Nissan transmissions will need reprogrammed when the units are replaced. I'm not the most successful or best mobile guy out here but I'm more than happy to offer up whatever help I can.
I recently attended the ATG Network diagnostics and programming class, I have the book also. The book is mostly on Different Network structures, MOST, Flex ray and strategies on how to trouble shoot these networks efficiently. The programming portion is more of the options you have, tooling, where to find the OE subscriptions and very basic procedure. I would highly recommend you purchase it because it cover a lot on networks and since you say you have never done programming it will help you get started with the basics.
follow New Level Auto on you tube. go this guy does exactly what you plan on. I do believe you may need to invest into factory scan tools/software. scannerdanner premium also has a 2 part video, about 3 hrs long on programming with Joe palemero from bullseye auto.