Jeep Renegade Security Issues

Michael Mobile Technician Clinton, Utah Posted   Latest  
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Security
2015 Jeep Renegade Limited 2.4L (T ED6) 9-spd (948TE)
Key Registration

Today I attempted to program keys on a 2015 Renegade. The shop was able to get the SKIM code as none of my aftermarket tools would pull it. Using the Witech2 I got the pictured message. It appears that this VIN does not exist in the database. Any ideas?

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Chris Technician
Bryans Road, Maryland
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Can you program them with your aftermarket tools now that you have the skim? What key tools did you try? I’m just curious as I just started messing with security.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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I tried the AutoProPad, MVP, Autel. The vehicle is unique enough that none of them would work.

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Chris Technician
Bryans Road, Maryland
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Any chance you can put it in as a 2016 to see if it will work on the auto pad pro ? I checked their website and it only lists a 2016. There is also a chysler pin puller app on androids that I have heard good things not sure if it will work for this model

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hi Chris, 2016 is proximity key. Did not try with Auto Pro Pad but did with MVP as it showed coverage. Wasted a $40 token.

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Benjamin Diagnostician
Murfreesboro, Tennessee
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I don’t know whether this vehicle is applicable, but SKIM codes provided by the dealer will not work on newer FCA vehicles. They use Dealer Connect, and we in the aftermarket world use Tech Authority. Dealers are now limited on how many SKIM codes they can give out per day for older FCA vehicles. You are likely going to need an LSID and purchase the aftermarket SKIM/PIN code from

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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I am aware of that issue. I was hoping that it was a static code on this one. The message was so strange that is why the post. It looks like a poor translation from Italian to English.

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Benjamin Diagnostician
Murfreesboro, Tennessee
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I agree it is a strange message and may have nothing to do with what I stated. There are still quite a few bugs in the wiTECH 2.0 software and this very well could be one of them. Try this... you have the option to add keys on many models newer than 2010 in the legacy J2534 software.

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Bob Owner/Technician
East Longmeadow, Massachusetts
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Do you know anyone with a SKP-900? I have seen it do some surprising things.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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I have one but gave up on it.

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Hans Diagnostician
Salt Lake City, Utah
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Let me know if you want to try my IM600.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hans, Thanks, decided to pull up stakes on this one. Both shop and customer in hurry to get done.

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Scott Owner/Technician
Brantford, Ontario
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What's the history on this , lost keys?

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Scott Owner/Technician
Brantford, Ontario
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Looks like likely a precoded dealer only key , zedfull shows a emulator key .Not that I have a zed. Sounds like these are similar to fiat systems with precoding. Where were your keys sourced from? Dang Jeeps.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Scott, Precoded from Jeep. Not sure on Zed Full. I have an old version. Getting the keys could be difficult. Not a shelf item.

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
Kirkwood, Pennsylvania
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Hi Mike: A couple of questions/thoughts, if you don't mind. 1: Did the message appear before or after the PIN input? 2a: You mentioned that the PIN was procured by someone else. Do you know for a fact that it is a valid SKIM Pin for this vehicle? 2b: Is there any chance you were given a Uconnect PIN, either the vehicle or the App? 2c: Is there any chance the SKIM PIN was memorialized in the

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Guido, Thank you for the insight. A couple of questions/thoughts, if you don't mind. 1: Did the message appear before or after the PIN input? After 2a: You mentioned that the PIN was procured by someone else. Do you know for a fact that it is a valid SKIM Pin for this vehicle? Came from dealer 2b: Is there any chance you were given a Uconnect PIN, either the vehicle or the App? Not sure…

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
Kirkwood, Pennsylvania
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Hi Mike: I agree with your thoughts on the BCM being ok. Pages 31-32 may offer some insight on the key itself. fcacanada​.​ca/owners/en/manu…​.​pdf Granted, the vehicle is gone. I'd be curious if the procedure for the 500X is different. That's why I mentioned that vehicle. (OK. One of the reasons. The other reason is that it is a strunzo.) I vaguely remember something

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Caleb Technician
Mishawaka, Indiana
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Hey Mike, I am no expert on this at all however I ran into before on a 15 Cherokee. We were using J2534 and it kept giving us a similar message after entering the 5 digit PIN supplied by the dealer. The dealer supplied PINs according to what I know are only valid if using a Witech WITH A DEALER LOGIN. Otherwise I guess its a different PIN obtained thru an LSID. I have no idea about LSID so that

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Matthew Diagnostician
Commack, New York
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when you get that message it is looking for a dealership techs login. had the same issue as well. it will not allow anyone other than a dealership tech to program a key fob on the newer vehicles

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
Kirkwood, Pennsylvania
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Hi Matthew: Since I've been getting away from doing Onsite Service, I wanted to reach out to another rep who does a lot of them. Here's what he has to say: "The key thing is not accurate I have done Keys on even these 2018 & 2019 Chryslers. Other then needing the "Front Door Door" Tech Connect pin code that you buy off TechAuthority, I have had no issues. Again other than it now requires

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Shop reported back that the dealer was able to fix the problem. I got the information 3rd hand but they said that the SKIM module and BCM had to be reset. I don't recall seeing any security info in any modules except in the BCM. I am just glad it got repaired without having to replace anything.

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Scott Owner/Technician
Brantford, Ontario
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Glad it worked out. even a hard battery reset, allows programming to reinitialize , Especially if when you arrive and it has been messed with. The master reboot button would be a great addition.

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Matthew Diagnostician
Commack, New York
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so its a witech 2.0 bug does not surprise me lol

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Jimmy Mechanic
Doral, Florida
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I have the same problem I got deelerconect pin code and use cardaq plus 3 with a witech 2.0 subscription. The vehicle is renegade 16 flip key I should wait a while and try again Let's see if witech gives the correction. Or should I get tech connect pin code?

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