Crank Sensor Waveform Amperage

Darren Mechanic Wisconsin Posted   Latest  
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2002 Jeep Liberty 3.7L 4-spd

cam sensor amperage 10mv per mA Contemplating the diagnostic value….yada yada yada

share your thoughts if any. Known good. Signal wire.

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Dmitriy Analyst
Ontario
Dmitriy
 

This looks like a “pull-down design” sensor: diag​.​net/file/f219ainup… ​ The waveform confirms that - the sensor is able to switch; - the PCM* provides a pull-up; thus the signal makes it all the way to the PCM. *hopefully; could be something else if miswired. I expected to see more than only 5mA of current, though, to provide better noise immunity…

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

I have done a few Hall effect sensors now and that seems to be where they all are at, about 5 mA

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Stephen Technician
Tennessee
Stephen
 

I expected to see less current on the signal line. 5ma puts the pull up resistor at 2600 ohms. 4700 or 10,000 are more my experience for such resistors in other electronics.

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Dmitriy Analyst
Ontario
Dmitriy
 

For short tracks inside modules, no problem… but for something snaking a few feet not far from ignition coils… so had to double-check this up: diag​.​net/file/f5ze7or2y… ​ diag​.​net/file/f4tma8edi… ​

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

Next time I will be sure to include voltage waveform next to it .

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Stephen Technician
Tennessee
Stephen
 

Measuring the current is a fast, non-invasive way to verify signal circuit integrity. For the current to be correct; the voltage and circuit resistance have to also be correct. The drawback is having a current clamp capable of small current measurement and then having a known good value of the current. In the future techs may request a “known good” sensor current instead of ckp/cmp, I…

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

I will let you know monday

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

Aemc instruments

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Philip Educator
California
Philip
 

Its instructive and cool, but otherwise…. what exactly do you learn from measuring the current when the module is looking at voltage switching; not at current flow. Your tool is how much? $1,000?, and difficult to zero, I'm guessing, based on where the zero point is located. I have never owned or even used a micro-amp probe so maybe I'm just envious :). However, I appreciate your posting it…

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Jeffrey Mobile Technician
Illinois
Jeffrey
 

I have actually diagnosed a cam sensor using current. 98 Grand Caravan 3.3L. Shop replaced cam sensor and had the same code. Code number I can’t remember but it had to do with cam sensor. I found no voltage in the sensor wire when it was plugged in. Occasionally it would start and run just fine with a good signal pattern and occasionally it would not. When it wouldn’t run right the cam signal…

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

Outstanding!!! nice work

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

Forgot to zero it, my apologies 😜

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Darren Mechanic
Wisconsin
Darren
 

Forgot to zero it, my apologies.

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