I hope someone can help me.
Vehicle will no crank I programed a used computer same thing I get this codes with both computers
U0300:00-27, P060A:00-D0, P1602:00-2B
What did you program it with? Also did you relearn the theft system?
I use a VCM II and this one is a Non- PATS vehicle.
I think I ran into this once. Did the pcm have the right part numbers??
Check power and ground to pcm. Blown or partially blown fuse IMO
Two Keys present perform perimeter reset
Does not matter if has pats,you still have to perform parameter reset so the pcm knows it is not a pats system. I tried with autel and would not work. I performed 10 min security access and performed reset with ids and worked fine.
Yes I did a parameter reset with an IDS
With those codes it appears it is not communicating properly. If the fuses are good, I would pull out a wire diagram and test at the PCM to make sure it is getting power and ground. If that is good, it may have some other reason it cannot communicate. Like bad CAN wires. Can you communicate with the instrument panel, if not that may be your issue, I have seen wires rubbed through by the radiator…
CAN system checked good with oscilloscope and I can communicate with all the modules no problem
Did you check to power with a volt meter and maybe a headlight as a load on the system to see if getting enough amps . Like others said power and ground then can you talk to any part of truck get wire print out maybe a pin out ID too. Then steep back get something to eat or drink , can u by pass the key switch and cranks over maybe a bad key switch
Yes I checked powers and grounds with a headlight bulb all good
And I did bypass the ignition switch just to get it to crank but will not start
Are you sure you have the correct PCM for this vehicle? Is the hardware the same? Also, a lot of CNG vehicle can have special software provisions. Were these codes present before as well? Did you do a parameter reset?
No, those codes weren't there before it was just a no start and it is the right PCM I checked with my local Ford dealer I even went back and reprogrammed de PCM with a as built data and same thing
Miguel, Did you perform the parameter reset? You still have to do the action and then when granted access you just do a parameter reset.
Yes I did a parameter reset and nothing changed I can't even clear the codes
Vin comes up as a Flex Fuel. And Salvaged tilte...Wow that thing has had a rough life Please post PCM part #
Catalog as per Vin is also LBK3..not sure about the hardware. Any other codes in other modules?
Couple things come to mind. Use the IDS and monitor any pid that has a fault status for a Fault. If that reveals nothing start unhooking any sensors/component that have a 12-volt buffered supply. Check the status of any alarm or perimeter pids that you can find. Run the network test. Verify the correct as built data in all available modules.
I've seen a relay hang open causing a no crank/ no start on Fords. Don't remember if it had codes.
After reading all the replies I am wondering if there is some OTHER module in there that the whole system does not like. And therefore maybe the parameter reset is not being successful. The salvage title is what bothers me. It will take some time but verifying part numbers on other modules might lead you to something being just plain wrong for that VIN. If you can tell where/how it was crashed…
The vehicle was hit on the left front and the airbag module was the only module got replaced and I already checked part numbers and it's the right module
I wonder if the air-bag module is telling the ECM the car has crashed and not to start. Can you try programming it again?
I already programmed the ECM like three times. The airbag module don't have any codes, I'm going to try another ECM and see what happens
I meant the air bag ECU. Maybe it was configured wrong and is not sending the fuel enable signal. Remember how Ford always had the "inertia switch" in the kick panels? I think it is internal logic in the airbag ECU now. I'm not with SI at home though, just another thing to consider. Not sure which models/years switched over.
I see what you are saying but, and correct me if I'm wrong the airbag module disable the fuel pump when it records a crash but on this vehicle you can hear the fuel pump when you turn the key on
Now might be a time for a little background story... Where,what when...
The vehicle was wrecked on the left front and after the body shop repaired the body damaged the vehicle would not start
CNG vehicles require an aftermarket calibration to operate. If the PCM was programmed with stock calibration you need to reach out to the CNG conversion company to get the correct PCM file installed in the module. P1602 is related to PCM IPC communication and pairing. Parameter reset should be performed. Have you tested the IPC for codes? IPC is in charge of pats whether or not it requires…
This is not a CNG vehicle and the IPC communicates fine with no codes
Miguel, Is there a way to edit the posted vehicle (L CNG)
I posted the VIN it is not a CNG vehicle
I think the incorrect VIN breakdown needs to be fixed by DN, it's leading people astray. Maybe email Scott or Tom.
I see what you are saying I don't know why it comes up as a CNG vehicle
Engine Vin character does not determine fuel type on this vehicle, when using a non OE Vin decoder one most pick correct option. In this case DN lists 6. Pretend to start a new post with his Vin for a visual.
Interesting. Thanks. I had put it in another decoder earlier, and it came up as "gas".
I guessed I overlooked something in all the posts. I don't see the VIN. Please re-post.
With the P060A and the U0300 present in the PCM as well as the P1602 I would focus on part application or programming. Follow the steps in the previous post below and try to Overwrite the PCM with forced Vin data. I haven't seen it on this vehicle, but its a shot in the dark. diag.net/msg/m6z2mmuzj7…
Hi Chris, I did try your suggestions but it didn't work I'm still getting the exact same codes as before and no crank Thank you and thanks every body for el the help Im going to try another PCM and go from there
Did you reset parameters in the IPC as well? I saw you say you performed parameter reset, just looking to specify whether you did it in both the ECM and IPC, or just the ECM. I can't remember if doing a parameter reset on the ECM will reset the IPC as well, I don't think it does but it's been a while since I last used IDS.
Per service info: "NOTE: Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) vehicles and non- PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System) vehicles have parameters in the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) and the PCM and they must be reset whenever either module is replaced." Worth a shot I think.