Is Snap On Removing PIDs?

Mike Technician Georgia Posted   Latest   Edited  

I've had a few vehicles lately since I purchased 19.2 that have me wondering this question. Is anyone else noticing maybe some PIDs are gone that used to be there in previous versions? I've seen some errors that are obviously in the software, in which a function test won't access the correct PID list and reported that to tech support, but this is where there have been these PIDs in the past and now with 19.2 they're gone. I had a Ford 5.4 today I wanted to look at the data pids for the VCT and see what the actual versus desired cam angles were and the section only had 3 PIDs. Our IDS is down (anybody want to guess why?) so I couldn't compare, but I swear the info has been there in the past.

I know I've been critical of Snap On before so please don't think this post is just here to complain. I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing this.

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Grant Manager
Ontario
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Hello Mike can you supply the VIN for the … 5.4 from today.

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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Here you go Grant: 1FMJK1J57EEF49148

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Zachary Mobile Technician
Texas
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I've thought that a couple times recently myself Mike. I was looking at VCT pids on a 2015 F150 5.0L about a month or so ago and it seemed to be missing some of the ones I'd seen in the past. If I remember right, I believe some of the intake cam pids were missing but the exhaust ones were there. Swore I'd seen desired and actual for all four cams in the past.

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Joel Diagnostician
California
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good luck , snap on never heard the opininos of user , I was loyalty to them but they let me down with some tools as yuo said , on the components test the pressure transducer for vaccum reads no more than 18 in hg , from 2008 I think they do no fix those , also the cursor they messt up with them like in 2014 you save a file on sacnner and no cursors can be place only at the end of screen . the…

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
Pennsylvania
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Hi Joel: We had the same transducer issue 17 years ago. We replaced it with another one and the same thing. Got a third and guess what? Yup, they all do that. We were also told that we didn't know how to use it. Kind of hard to mess up "Zero". I guess it's like an elevator button. Obviously, we were pushing it wrong. Guido

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Robert Diagnostician
Florida
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I too had the snap on pressure transducer using it with pico and the vantage ultra was useless. I went ahead and ordered the one made for Pico users and it works great. I was trying to follow along with John Thorton's pressure transducer class with the snap on unit and it just wasn't getting the job done. Now everything works fine. The pressure readings are accurate, the zero line is accurate …

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Joel Diagnostician
California
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the one I use with pico is from the USB auto scope very cheap and clean and good resolution I created custom probes for them on pico software . I have the 500 psi and the one for vacuum and adapter to make it first look sensor

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Troy Owner/Technician
Washington
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I had a 2004 sprinter and the maf was registering on the intake temp and vice versa and basicaly was told thank you but they had not seen this issue, and now I cant even get my tool guy to come in anymore its like they are not helping us old timers that are not buying tools, ive put 3 shops together and as soon as I stop buying i get the ice

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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Troy, I won't even touch Volkswagens any more because the data is so messed up. Last one I did had a coolant temp measured in grams per second and half the PIDs were nothing but zeroes and ones. Plus 19.2 won't auto ID VWs without an error message.

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Hollis Technician
Colorado
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IIRC Subaru omitted the FTPS (fuel tank pressure sensor) PID on some models between circa …, but since have added it back on later models. So it might not be a Snap-On issue.

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Jordan Diagnostician
Nebraska
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I know first hand that happens after a HPtuner was used to delete the VCT. Flash it back to stock and see what happens.

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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Ha! I would but the shop foreman updated IDS and now we no longer have IDS.

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Glen Owner/Technician
Illinois
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What version was the IDS update?

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