Ford key programming getting kicked out

Nolan Technician Bahamas Posted   Latest   Edited  

Hello to all I am very thankful to all for taking time out of your life's to answer my many remedial questions thank you to all. 2002 ford ranger 3.0 liter . Why does my scan tool get kicked out of ten minute ford key programming I am using a Launch X431 PAD V . My tool gets a message (no communication) from the module the PCM when it gets kicked out , but I can go into the data pids and read codes . The story with this truck is its in for a no start after a engine rebuild at another shop . I was asked to replace the pcm with a used one and therefore also program keys . 

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Richard Mechanic
New York
Richard
   

1st you should be using ids platform with compatible j-2534 device or vcm but it sounds like its not entering learn mode try another key first if I remember correctly the tdm is behind the glove box very common failure for this problem ck the wiring replace module you will need 2 keys after module replacement i just wanted to ad this is for the forced entry being active

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
Nolan
 

Thank you for the reply , if the tdm module is bad will it need programming or just programming the keys to it . Can't tell you how much this help means to me .

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
Nolan
 

One last thing , what is forced entry being active. I thought I my have seen that on my scan tool.

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John Mechanic
Ohio
John
 

Forscan with extended license will also program PATS . As for the forced entry error I wonder if anti-theft is active ,try manually unlocking the doors before programming.

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Jose Educator
Texas
Jose
 

Is the theft light staying solid when you put the the key on or is it flashing.

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
Nolan
 

The theft light is flashing and then after a while it goes out thanks .

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Jose Educator
Texas
Jose
   

I had a similar problem, where the lights will flash sometimes but for the most part the light will stay solid. The problem was the keys I had they were both bad. I would go to pats function and the vehicle will time out. I had to reset the battery in order to start the pats function again.

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
Nolan
 

My light only flashes , than after a long while it would go out I have checked the keys with my zedbull and they checked out OK thank you .

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Jamie Mobile Technician
British Columbia
Jamie
 

Aside from the other replies, keep in mind a low battery voltage will kick you out of the 10 min learn.

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Paul Owner/Technician
California
Paul
   

I don't work on Fords, so I don't have any specific knowledge about your situation, but here are some things I would think about. Maybe others can chime in if these suggestions are not applicable to Ford products. First, some cars have conditions/requirements during key programing. For instance, Toyota often requires the driver's door be open during programming whereas Honda requires that all…

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
Nolan
 

Thank you for the great in-depth help, I have checked the keys and they are the right ones and I did get some key codes. If I recommend correctly, I think one is for an un-programmed key and something like not the original key from what I can remember , PS I need to start making reports so I can look at them at a letter time.

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Felix Mechanic
California
Felix
 

May be you have a problem in the instrument cluster. There is the PATS….

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Raymond Mobile Technician
Michigan
Raymond
 

Nolan, looks like everyone covered good info. My question is did this ford start before engine removal? I get a lot of calls to shops to diagnose a no crank or no communication after Tranny or engine replacement to find a connector pin issue or loose connector. HTH

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
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I am so pleased to say that the vehicle is fixed, I arrived at the vehicle installed a fresh battery and put the charger on it put the windows down took the keys out and locked it up. After about ten minutes I opened the truck from the driver's door from the inside because there are no door keys as of yet, plugged in the Autel 906BT, and went through the process hoping to see if I would be…

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Laurence Student
Alberta
Laurence
 

Glad you got it sorted. I had a similar issue with an 07 F150, trying to program keys. First time the replacement key I got from the locksmith, told them I needed it to be unprogrammed; the truck came with 1 key, the other having been lost. So, thinking I had a good key, I dumped the existing key memory, used the original key, swapped the new key, PCM says good. Exit programming to check, 1 key…

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Nolan Technician
Bahamas
Nolan
 

Thank you for the generous reply , I have always wondered are the 4D chips 40bit and 80bit compatible and thanks for the heads up about the FOR-Scan and OASIS . Just wondering what exactly is OASIS and thanks again for your reply .

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Laurence Student
Alberta
Laurence
 

OASIS is the Ford dealership ESI and some vehicle service history. I bought a limited access account for one of my personal vehicles as I needed to confirm some wiring and couldn't find what I needed on the regular old Google box. So, mine was VIN specific, and only for 3 days, maybe a week🤷‍♂️. But, I saved the pages of the stuff I needed… Now, as far as the transponder chips go, I ordered 4…

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