Wiring Diagram Inaccuracy? 2017 Honda Pilot

Labeed Technician Baghdad, Iraq Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2017 Honda Pilot Elite 3.5L (J35Y6) 9-spd (Q5NB)—5FNYF6H02HB008283
U0101 - Lost Communication with TCM
U0114 - Lost Communication With Four-Wheel Drive Clutch Control Module

Hello all, 

This problem is in Honda pilot 4WD 2017. Strange is when you want to track the problem using wiring diagram. To find out F_CAN -B pin can bus H and L are not in their proper place according to the wiring daigram PCM connector. I purchased a subscription from the Honda technical site I did not get any information about the problem. I think there is a manufacturing defect in this car. This problem is between TCM PCM.

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Steven Mechanic
Spokane, Washington
Steven
 

Sometimes wiring diagrams are wrong. Even if you get the diagrams from the manufacturer. That vehicle is 2 years old, so if it was fine for that long and this problem happened only recently, then it's not likely a manufacturing defect, but probably just an incorrect wiring diagram. In rare cases, someone before you may have been in there doing tests and moved the pins to the wrong location in

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Labeed Technician
Baghdad, Iraq
Labeed
 

thank you Steven McGrew Thank you for your comment But I used it ALLDATATA and Mitchell pro Also But I've moved the wires As shown in the wairing daigram After that the car stopped working and many errors appeared during the diagnosis .

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Steven Mechanic
Spokane, Washington
Steven
 

Yes, what I'm suggesting is that the wiring diagram could be wrong. Doesn't matter if it is from Alldata or Mitchell or from Honda. The original wiring diagram from Honda could be wrong, and then Alldata and Mitchell got their info from Honda, and so their diagrams will be wrong as well. If this is the case, then you should not move the wires to what the diagram shows. Instead, you should leave

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Labeed Technician
Baghdad, Iraq
Labeed
 

Yes I checked the network communication It works normally and there is no fault with it

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Donny Owner/Technician
Wheat Ridge, Colorado
Donny
   

At the suggestion of Scott Brown I looked into the vehicle VIN on this Pilot to see if I could help with the service information. Because you were able to use the VIN decoder on Diag​.​net it is a North American vehicle by original title. What I found might be of use to you. This is in fact a North American built and sold Honda. It was a total loss and was sold for Salvage in 2018. This should

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Labeed Technician
Baghdad, Iraq
Labeed
 

thank you All car systems work normally Only the Adaptive cruise control stops working and The scanner can not recognize the automatic transmission The automatic transmission gear is working well I tried more scan tool but Useless .

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Glen Owner/Technician
Arthur, Illinois
Glen
 

Maybe this will help poctra​.​com/2017-HONDA-PIL…

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Martin Diagnostician
Burleson, Texas
Martin
 

Man that is crazy the thing was rolled over in Colorado and is now in Iraq...

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Geoff Diagnostician
Lahaina, Hawaii
Geoff
 

Never seen the Poctra site before Glen. Really cool.

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Dmitriy Analyst
Toronto, Ontario
Dmitriy
 

Amazingly brilliant information! Thank you, Donny, I have enjoyed your presentation at the AARO symposium a couple of weeks ago.

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Donny Owner/Technician
Wheat Ridge, Colorado
Donny
 

Dmitriy Thanks for being there. It is always a pleasure to talk with my northern friends. It was pretty cold for a Denver boy. Best, Donny

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