2010 Honda Accord Pressure Plate Tool?

Mike Technician Georgia Posted   Latest  

Good evening all,

I have a 2010 Accord in for a clutch replacement, so it's getting disc, pressure plate, bearing, and flywheel. AllData shows a special tool to compress the pressure plate for installation. This is my first time seeing that and I don't have the tool. We rarely have manuals come in as we're a fleet shop so the transmission work we do is mostly automatics.

AllData shows the press installed and pressing down on the spring and holding it while the pressure plate is torqued down. How exactly is this different than tightening the pressure plate to flywheel bolts evenly in several stages? And can we install without the tool? The foreman and I did see a video showing the pressure plate being installed without the tool, but the tech didn't explain the difference.

The car is our parts manager's car so I'm trying to do this in house instead of him having to send it out. But that tool is going to be pretty expensive if I do have to have it.

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Kenneth Diagnostician
Louisiana
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I work at a Honda dealer, and I looked up that tool. I have never used that. I have always just done it the old fashioned way. Using the alignment tool and tightening it down evenly. I don’t think we even have that tool. Let me know if have anymore questions about the job.

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Zachary Mobile Technician
Texas
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I have been a part of clutch jobs on the older accords and not needed it. I know for sure that it's mentioned in the special tools required at least as far back as 2004. It's my understanding that tool is only needed if you're reusing the disc and pressure plate but I could be mistaken. I have seen similar instructions on trucks with self adjusting pressure plates using just a shop press.

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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If this is the dual-mass clitch , YOU NEED THAT TOOL!!!! Do not make the mistake of trying to perform job without it ....ask me how I know this .

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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That's what I'm wanting to know Brandon. So far, the replies are mixed. I need as much info as I can get

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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I wonder if the others responding realize this is the dual-mass clutch? It’s not involved with the replacement of the conventional clutch assembly, only the dual-mass

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Zachary Mobile Technician
Texas
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That's interesting Brandon. I can only think of one Acura that had a dual Mass flywheel I've seen done. It was the shop I used to work for and we definitely didn't have the special tool. It's entirely possible we just got lucky. What is it about that particular flywheel which necessitates the tool? I've certainly seen other dual-mass applications that don't require a special tool but not all…

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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the tool anchors to the bell housing. a threaded anvil presses the pressure plate to preload/expand it. When it is FULLY compressed, the perimeter bolts are tightened. if this proecess it not carries out and preload is not established, there will not be enough stroke in the clutch pedal, to release the clutch.

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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Possibly. What I'm trying to find out is why. What is the difference between installing a new pressure plate without the tool and with the tool.

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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The correct preload can’t be established and the clutch pedal stroke will not release the clutch. this happens to me. I used the tool and simply didn’t compress/preload the pressure play far enough. I had to disassemble and repeat the clutch replacement process from step# 1

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Zachary Mobile Technician
Texas
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Thank you for the clarification Brandon. That makes a lot of sense. Knowing that I'd have to agree that it's not worth the risk to attempt it without the tool or some other method of pre-loading the pressure plate. David mentioned that he made his own which sounds like a viable option. Particularly for a one-off job.

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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Technically, the tool isn’t needed but a way to preload the pressure plate is.

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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So basically brand new out of the box without the tool would be "hope for the best"

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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I wouldn't do it....you've been warned. That's a fairly big job to do again for FREE

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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I presented the info and let the higher ups make the call. It worked out, the clutch is performing fine. But as I said in my update, now that I've got an understanding of exactly what the tool does (thanks for that btw) I will work on fabricating something for use should a customer's car come in needing this.

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Brandon Diagnostician
Pennsylvania
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I’m glad it worked-out

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Michael Diagnostician
Texas
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I'm sure the mixed replies are because the 6 cylinder uses a tool and the 4 cylinder doesn't.

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Tommy Technician
Georgia
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It is a self adjusting clutch and it can be installed without the special tool. You have to go slow turning each bolt 1/4 turn at a time. Here is a video from perfection clutch explaining how to install. youtube​.​com/watch?v=OdVagq…

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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Hey Tommy. This is the video we watched yesterday.

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Tommy Technician
Georgia
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I had to put one in an acura tl a few months ago and everything went fine doing it this way.

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Danny Instructor
Quebec
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Mini also asks for it and also not needed

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David Mobile Technician
California
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I made my own out of some square aluminum stock. It‘s a little crude, but worked great. davie

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Mike Technician
Georgia
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All, Thanks for all the replies and info. I presented the info and let management make the call go/no go. Got a go. I installed without the tool and it did fine as some said. HOWEVER. Now that I have a better understanding of what the tool does, I will work on fabricating something to use in the future if a customer's car needs it as opposed to a coworker's car.

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