Compression test on Toyota hybrid

Joel Diagnostician Soquel, California Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2010 Toyota Prius 1.8L (2ZR-FXE) (P410)
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Good morning every body, I have a case study to discuss the proper way to do a compression test. I work for a shop where we service hybrid vehicles, however, this is the first time I am performing a compression test on this type of vehicle. The customer requested this because the vehicle needs a HV battery pack and he wanted to know the health of the vehicle (ICE). 

I checked the specification and it is 118 psi max with a 14 psi difference (I would like to know the spec from experienced guys about what percentage you use to rule out a compression issue that will cause a misfire relative to slight low compression) between cylinders. The engine is warm and my compression results are 150 psi. The customer asked what the specification is, and what the actual formula is to determine a worn-out engine. You'll see the results below. 

I would like your opinion on the test that was done with a Snap-On scanner and Toyota Tech Stream. Same peak compression archived at 150 psi. 

*Edited by Diagnostic Network Staff 11/9/18

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John Educator
Ogden, Utah
John
 

Joel, 118 psi is not the maximum pressure, it is the standard pressure. More is fine as long as all 4 cylinders are the same. Technically all spark plugs should be removed and the throttle held at WOT white testing. The Prius Atkinson expansion cycle engine uses VVT-i to increase the cylinder compression ratio while cranking to aid in quick starts (especially in cold weather). It also uses

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Joel Diagnostician
Soquel, California
Joel
   

yes , I understand about the atikson cycle and the scanner is commanding the trans axle mg1 in this case to do rpm like normal engine that has started motor and also is disabling injectors and coils also is commanding the vtc to set at certain point during the test . is that information from TIS you got there?? because all data has specif as you can see there 3 ranges , compression and it

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John Educator
Ogden, Utah
John
 

Yes, that is directly from TIS for a 2010 Prius. Have a great day

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Matthew Technician
Lawrence, Massachusetts
Matthew
 

I agree with John, higher compression is fine as long as they are all even. As far a giving the vehicle a clean bill of health: The gen3 (09-15) Prius is know for head gasket issues. I've seen them present as misfires, coolant consumption and even external leaks. When they misfire it can cause a loud knocking noise in the transmission that could lead you to believe there's a transmission issue

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Joel Diagnostician
Soquel, California
Joel
 

agree the peak compression even on alll cylinders is what matters

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Gil Manager
Woollahra, Australia
Gil
 

Hi Joel I would like to see your results when you remove the one way valve from the compression gauge and test the running compression , rather than the peak compression. The engine is being run at ‘idle speed ‘ Rather than conventional cranking speed so this to me would be more relevant

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Joel Diagnostician
Soquel, California
Joel
   

Remember you running compression will vary from time time on this engine / atikcon cycle when first you start ups this vehicle cranking cold the ecm wanted to see minimum 5 grams per second on the maf or they give you a code , engine fail to start , you can monitor this data pid from cold to warm and your grams per second will vary , they are doing some thing with the throttle , vetch and so on

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Jim Curriculum Developer
Frederick, Maryland
Jim
   

John Kelly's comments on the specs is spot on. TIS has more detail. It is important to separate tests. The active test in the HV ECU is the one for intrusive testing with a gauge. The Active Test in the Engine ECU is the relative test and is read by looking at the "speed of cyl #X" PIDS and the " AV engine speed of All Cyl" PID. The speed of cyl pids are only valid with the active test

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Joel Diagnostician
Soquel, California
Joel
 

thank you .

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