Cannot do TSB Update on Kia

Jeff Owner/Technician Arizona Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2014 Kia Soul 1.6L (2) 6-spd (A6GF1) — KNDJN2A23E7019898
P050A — Cold Start Idle Control System Performance

This is the second Kia in as many months that the j2534 tool does not recognize the update present in the TSB and says there's no programming event available.

Could not find valid reprogramming event!!

I sprung another $75 to download the tool again thinking that maybe it had passed outside the quarterly expiration, but it hadn't. That was a waste of money.

FUE053 is the TSB. The current calibration in the PCM is DNU6PK24C00 which is eligible to be updated to DNU6PK44C00.

I had the same issue with it another Kia from the same year it did the same thing, but I wrote it off to there being something strange going on with KiaTechInfo. But, apparently this is ongoing.

I've done these in the past, but something has changed.

Edit - their “diagnostic tool” is for 2018 and up, BTW.

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Steve Mobile Technician
Arizona
Steve
 

What pass-through device are you using. Are you using the Gscan because that J 2534 system in that scan tools for a Hyundai and Kia

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

I normally just grab any J box I have laying around since it's always worked in the past. But once it started giving me a hard time, I grabbed my Bosch MVCI which is one of their listed devices.

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Kerry Mobile Technician
Ohio
Kerry
 

We've noticed the same thing over the last year. What used to be a really reliable setup, is no more. Others have posted about this, there may be more in their threads that helps with the solution. We've sent several emails and never even gotten a response from them. Have not tried an SIR yet

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

I did a search of this forum for a situation like mine, but I didn't find one.

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Joe Owner/Technician
New Jersey
Joe
 

Hello Jeff, We experienced same problem on a 2017 Elantra that needed a ECM software update we found in a bulletin to revise control logic for completion of OBD-2 fuel system readiness monitor. We verified the calibration needed to be updated. Payed our $75 and used our Cardaq-M-MC and hoped it was going to be routine. Received same message *Could not find valid reprogramming event*. Reviewed…

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Benjamin Diagnostician
Tennessee
Benjamin
 

I would suggest filing a detailed SIR through NASTF. If you have everything documented, it is the best way of getting things resolved.

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

As has been well evidenced here and elsewhere, Kia/Hyundai is completely unresponsive to NASTF SIRs. I think their newest offensive in Massachusetts is an indication of their resolve in that respect. “Send it to the dealer”.

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Mike Mobile Technician
South Carolina
Mike
 

The H/K J2534 system has had directory issues recently. Actually, I've been blaming this issue on the recent ransomware attack that they suffered last year. I have no evidence that that is the exact cause, but it seemed to become an issue right around that time and it at least sounds good to my clients when I spent the time and money to do it right per the OEM and still can't get it…

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John Owner
New York
John
 

+1 to what Mike Reynolds posted. This has been happening on the J side quite a bit. Mike, I like the Ransomware explanation. I will use that as well. :)

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
Jeff
 

Unfortunately, this is not the first time I've encountered this exact scenario and I reached out to H/K with no result just a few months ago.. No call back. No e-mail. I'll start a SIR, but we all know how (in)effective those are. Not to mention that I seldom get a second shot at a car - if I can't get it done, it goes to the dealer. I am the dealer alternative. I have the older GDS system -…

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John Owner
New York
John
 

Jeff, All of us in the mobile game encounter the same set of issues. Your issues are not unique. I have encountered this many times in times in the last couple of years. Sometimes it gets resolved other times not. It is part of the game. The only surefire way is to pony up for OE tablets and interface.

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Jeff Owner/Technician
Arizona
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Got called out on another one on Friday - same model and TSB - with the same result. Still no answers from KIA and now with their site down (because of the Snap-On snafu), I don't know when I'll get another shot at it.

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