Mitsubishi Fuso - Proper Vehicle Identification in TEXA
No one ever claimed that computerized diagnostics was easy. Even when you purchase a high-end, multi-brand diagnostic tool, things can still go wrong. Trucks are complicated pieces of machinery and understanding how to use your diagnostic software platform can be troublesome as well.
In this example, we are going to cover a diagnostic mistake that occurs quite often. This customer had a 2012 FUSO Canter in his shop and called use because he needed more information on the diagnostic code he was seeing. Below is a screen shot of what we saw when we first logged into his computer to assist him.
First, we noticed he had the vehicle selected as a FUSO Canter and the customer had selected the 4M50 Model engine. We also see that the code given is an odd hexadecimal code of “C3DF1”. The customer had looked in our repair information guide called DTC Solutions to look for information on this code.
At this point, the customer was confused. The TEXA system was giving error code “C3DF1”, yet all our repair information is by SPN and FMI. One of the first things our technical support center did, was then look at the parameter readings. If the codes were displaying incorrectly, then let’s see what else looks odd and unusual.
Even doing a quick glance, we can see that the parameters are reading incorrectly as well. It shows the engine at over 7,000 RPMs, and the Torque at a negative amount. So now we have 2 clues – The parameters are reading incorrectly, and the diagnostic code is also reading improperly. This now is starting to clear the picture with our support technician, but we still aren’t sure. The problem could be in the truck, the software itself, or even user error. At this point, our next step was to verify that the customer connected to the vehicle properly.
When using the TEXA software, it is important to select the correct options. This includes both selecting the proper physical port on the vehicle to connect to, along with the proper options in the software. Some of the import and medium duty trucks may have multiple diagnostic ports, all of which read different ECUs on the vehicle. In this case with the Mitsubishi FUSO, this was only one port, which was a standard OBDII port.
The next question our support technician asked was how they knew the engine was a 4M50, which the customer replied that they didn’t know and had just guessed based on previous experience and that it connected just fine. We then decided to disconnect the software from the vehicle and go look at our connection options.
We can see from the areas we have marked that our technician now found his third clue. The customer had indeed selected 4M50, but we can see there are two options for the engine. This is a model year 2012, and the selection options are for either emission year … on Line K, or emission year 2007 on CAN line. The reason this raised a red flag, was that this was a 2012 model year truck which should be on 2010 model year emissions. Our technician also knew that the 4M50 wasn’t the most common engine for Mitsubishi FUSO trucks, as the 4P10 is more common for this year range.
Things are looking much better at this point. The emission year 2010 & 2013 engines are shown as an option, and he then connected to the vehicle.
Once connected, we viewed the fault codes and we can now see that we do indeed have several active codes, along with one inactive code in the system. The important thing to note here is that TEXA does not include any repair information for these codes, so customers are still on their own to find solutions. In this case, the customers kit did include our Diesel Laptops repair information. We can tell by looking at code 1254-31 (Which is SPN 1254 FMI 31) that this is a code stating the engine is de-rated. We also briefly looked at SPN 520557 FMI 31, which told us that this code is logged for a SCR related fault.
That brought us to code SPN 3031 FMI 1. A search within the DTC Solutions program for this DTC produced the proper DTC info and related intelligence to allow the user to continue on with his analysis.
Connecting to commercial trucks, and getting on the right diagnostic path, isn’t always the most obvious or easy thing to do. These are very complex systems, and in this case the diagnostic software would allow you to connect to the vehicle in an improper way. For the average technician that randomly bumps up on a Mitsubishi FUSO truck, they probably would have either wasted a large amount of time changing the wrong code or assumed the diagnostic tool doesn’t work properly.
In this case, we could easily deduce that the issue was the customer selecting the wrong options. However, the software would still connect but was giving false and misleading information, yet the technician didn't realize it. We hope that you find this information informative and if you have any questions, about diagnostic tool related information please let us know. We have tons to share and look forward to engaging with the HD service techs on Diagnostic Network.
Do you guys ever have plans to offer Knowledge Base as a seperate program like DTC Solutions?
No, it isn’t planned right now. It’s a very valuable part of what comes on our kits, and we prefer to sell the kits.
We are building a “master” desktop app and website that will entail everything we currently have and are working on — DTC Solutions, Labor Time Guides, Wiring Diagrams, Universal Parts Cross reference, KnowledgeBase, VIN decoder, and other products we haven’t released yet. Sometime in mid-2019 we should have it done.
Thanks for asking!
That is good news on the website/app. Currently I do repairs part time on my own, and wiring diagrams can be hard to come by. As much as I would love to have a Texa kit with everything it entails, I cannot justify it.
I had to demonstrate the Texa for our open house we had during the summer on irrigation equipment. Was a fast learning curve demoing infront of a crowd. But had several interested. The interface can use improvement. I have used it a couple times to program Cat trim files. The software makes it look like you can browse to files. But, that doesn't work. Had to drag files into a folder setup by program. Texa works. But, has a learning curve.
Considering Texa is an aftermarket tool so far I am very impressed with it. Do you mainly work on Ag? Im a Transit Tech myself.
We work on everything diesel. We have oem for most platforms. I work on more HD side covering everything. Truck to tractor. Since we have alot of oem software. I don't get chance to use Texa as much. It also gets lent out to customers on a trial basis. The demo was more for Diesel Laptops. As we offer alot of their products. The one piece of equipment I could not use it on was a brand new Yanmar skidsteer. Yanmar was only listed under the Marine section of software.
Yanmar just got added about 2 weeks ago, and the Yanmar cables are in-route to us. It is pretty much "read only" right now, with a couple simple commands. However, they've promised us that the next several updates will add Yanmar bi-directional commands.
Yeah I had to make a custom cable to interface with the Yanmar. Ended up not needing it. It had after treatment code for Regen needed. Took two different manuals to figure out that there was no automatic Regen on unit. Has to be manually started. To prevent fires I presume. Just had to give customer better instructions.
I agree the interface/menu's are hot easy to navigate. I would guesstimate that 60% of our tech calls for Off Highway software is problems with people connecting. They aren't sure which connection option to select, and there are over 60 different cable ends. Throw into that mix that some machines need to put into "diagnostic mode" by bumping the ignition key or disconnecting/connecting some wires adds to it as well. At the very least, it keeps our call center busy and on their toes. :)