ADAS Calibration Targets

Jason from Nanticoke Instructor Posted   Latest  

With all the discussion around ADAS systems that are currently out and new ones being released frequently, I am looking at getting involved with calibration training at my school. Are there any shops out there using aftermarket calibration targets, scan tools? If so where did you purchase them through and can you give a review on them? Also I would love to hear a discussion from industry if this is something I should be offering to my students/local industry? Obviously liability is a huge concern on properly calibrated systems. 

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James from Bishop

 

Diagnostician
 

yes Sir !

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Jaxon from Stafford Heights

 

Technical Support Specialist
 

Yes, I am also keen for up to date information regarding ADAS

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Donny from Wheat Ridge

 

Owner/Technician
 

Jason 

the guys at CTI have been testing equipment . OTC has some as well send me a note and I will connect you. 

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Randy from Raleigh

 

Curriculum Developer
 

Jason,

We have been researching aftermarket systems and so far the results have been positive. I will be able to share more details later in the year. As to the liability question the industry debate has been OE vs. aftermarket for both scan tools and targets. I will suggest that the liability should revolve around process and procedure, not logos on the tools. Several conversations with those involved with the insurance industry agree. Awareness of how the systems operate will keep shops out of litigation for even services we do every day like alignments and brakes. I think you are on track for considering the need for training in your area. As with any new technology there is a flurry of "what ifs" that will be followed by a better understanding industry wide. Feel free to contact me to further discuss.

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Michael from Hudson

 

Mobile Technician
 

The insurance industry also agreed with the John Eagle case, until they lost miserably in court and left people with disabilities. OE equipment is not just a logo on a tool, it is an APPROVED tool for the job. Service info has yet to dictate an aftermarket piece of equipment that is to the standards of the proper tool. It realy bothers me people are always looking for an aftermarket solution when the OE stuff is readily available. Who are we to decide what equipment is correct when a group of engineers already spelled it out for us?

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Jason from Nanticoke

 

Instructor
 

The idea of an aftermarket solution is based off of many factors. First and foremost for most shops/educational fields will be the cost of aftermarket vs. OE. If there is an aftermarket solution that will handle multiple vehicle lines as compared to the OE where that tool is now only good for that vehicle than it would be in most shops best interest to invest in the multiple use tool.

Secondly comes the idea of support. I have on more than one occasion used a factory tool outside of a dealership and was in need of technical support along the way. Wether it be update procedures or tool functionality, the OE's have not always been eager to assist outside of their dealer network.

Third is not as much an issue but with regards to ADAS, is a shop expected to have a separate stand or Target mount for each manufacturer? That can be very space consuming in a shop.

From an educators standpoint it is my duty to prepare my students for and offer to local industry a comprehensive view of what is out there and what they are likely to see/use. Since most dealership technicians are required to go to OE training, I am more concerned with teaching the stuff that will be encountered in the independent repair/diagnostic facilities.

There are a few manufacturers that have an "aftermarket" j-2534 box which is Approved by the OE's. Why can we not do the same with other equipment? As Federal regulations begin requiring different levels of ADAS it may be up to us to speak to them to also require a standarized test/calibration that falls under the Right to Repair.

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Michael from Hudson

 

Mobile Technician
 

J-2534 is mandated by the EPA, and there are some manufacturers embrace it, others make the tool miserable and function poorly. If aftermarket tools become approved, that is one thing. Until then, why are students being taught to not follow OE procedures, including equipment? Why are these systems being taught without proper tooling? Perhaps it should be taught as theory until either approved devices become available or funds for OE equipment is available? There is many targets and pieces that can be purchased for a fair price, that will not break the bank. If the school is looking to educate these systems, maybe they should start with those targets and avoid the costly ones like VW/Audi. Targets are expensive, however it is the cost of doing business and doing it properly. The students should be taught so they learn proper procedures with proper tooling. Why must it always be about doing the job and not doing the job RIGHT? I am an independent business, I purchased the proper tools and will turn down jobs that I am not tooled to do. The risk of injury to other motorists trump my desire to make money and if I cannot do it 100% to the OEM specifications, then I do not get involved.

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