Immobilizer Tool

Jim Owner/Technician Amherst, Ohio Posted   Latest  

Hello all,

I have done a lot of research regarding this subject, both on this site and on the internet in general, but I'm having a difficult time finding a definitive answer. I am looking for an OBD immobilizer tool that can do a parameter reset on newer Fords such as a 2014 Fusion. I would also like to find a tool that can program prox keys through the RF hub on newer Chrysler products such as a 2019 Dodge Charger. As most of you know, these processes require a VSP (LSID) license. I do not have that at this time. To answer your question, yes, I will get the license if necessary. I have no problem spending money for proper tooling. However, if a tool exists that can do these jobs, I would love to own it.

I do not have any desire to jumper eeproms on the circuit board, and I do not work on Euro so I do not think I need one of the high end locksmith tools. I just want to be able to program keys when necessary especially when it is in conjunction with a PCM replacement.

I have been looking at the Autopropad Lite, the Autel IM508, the Autek iKey820, and the Smartpro (although I do not like the token system with the Smartpro). I already own factory scan tools for all domestic, and Honda. I also have the Autel MS906 so my immobilizer capability is already pretty good. What I really want to avoid is buying a new immobilizer tool for $… only to find that the new tool gives me the same capabilities that I already have.

So does this tool exist or is it a unicorn? Thanks for your help and advice.

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Chris Diagnostician
Lebanon, Ohio
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I dont do well on an open platform but what your looking for cant be done with one single purchase. Almost all 19 and newer vehicles will require a nastf license and on your newer Chrysler's will require that plus a mega can for the secure gateway stuff. That being said, you will need to spend lots of money on an annual basis to make all that happen. You should be weighing your options if you…

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Thank you for the reply, Chris. Actually, I have absolutely no desire to become a locksmith, and I am very aware of the complexity of these systems. I only wish to be able to relearn immobilizer after a module replacement as I have been doing for years. I also like having the ability to program keys occasionally.

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Chris Diagnostician
Lebanon, Ohio
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That I can help you with. Key utilities have been provided for with j2534. What you wont get is the pin# for Chrysler's which is required to do pcm replaced function. The new models that are FCA involved are rolling codes and many of the new ones are pre-coded keys and a one time burn. You just cant go buy an uncut key for a ram promaster cut it then program it. The preceded data is vital for…

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Excellent info, Chris. Thank you.

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Albert Owner/Technician
Towanda, Pennsylvania
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My first trade was being a locksmith back in the mid 1980's things were a lot easier then. You really didn't need any kind of specialized training now the locksmithing trade has two specialty's home security and automotive simply because of technology has become so complex. Used to be you could cut a key and that was that now you also have you also have to know electronics and for most todays…

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Phillip Diagnostician
Anchorage, Alaska
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Their is no one does it all for immobilizer. So unless you are willing to do OEM and J2534 with LSID . Better be ready to get different Aftermarket tools and learn some EEPROM. Trust me I'm doing it now and that is the answer I have found for myself.

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Dario Owner/Technician
Grand Prairie, Texas
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FYI autopropad is great, but no parameter reset on ford fusion.

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Thanks for replying.

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Phillip, that is what I have concluded as well. I was just hoping there might be something available to make some of these jobs easier.

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Phillip Diagnostician
Anchorage, Alaska
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EEPROM isn't terrible. It has save customers a lot of money but you have to enjoy doing it for best results. I'll do some digging and if I can get some better answer for you I'll email or respond back to you.

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Philip Educator
Hemet, California
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Phillip, I'd sure love to have you attend my upcoming Anchorage class. I'm doing a vehicle communications class next Wednesday in the store at 1760 E Dowling St and I often get asked about reprogramming. I'd like to have someone like you there who can tell the class what you can do for them. If you've never been to an O'Reilly class before I might be able to get them to comp the class though I…

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Sam Mobile Technician
Flint, Michigan
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I have done several parameter resets with the autel im508. Dont know about the fusion specifically I have also programmed many prox keys on chrysler with the bypass cable. I can try to find a fusion to do a PR

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Dennis Owner/Technician
Plymouth, Michigan
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Is something weird about fusions?My 908 autel has done lots of ford parameter resets.I just cant recall if any were on fusions.

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Dario Owner/Technician
Grand Prairie, Texas
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2013 and up fusions are coded PATS system, unlike most other, older fords which had the timed (10 minute) PATS. With an autel and a autopro pad one can do alot of immobilizer functions, but eventually we all will need nastf LSID

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Thanks for the info Sam.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hi Jim, As others have mentioned, two issues that have required an LSID and there are not aftermarket solutions for are 2014 and newer (most) Fords and 2017.5 and newer (most) Chrysler vehicles. Key tools like the Auto Pro Pad and SmartPro will learn keys. They do not at this point perform module replacements on the newer models. With the right tools you can "clone" the PCM to be plug and play…

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Hi Michael, Thank you for the reply. I appreciate the info. I'll be in various cities on Monday from Amherst to Cleveland, but it would be nice to meet up if possible.

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Andrew Owner/Technician
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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I have been using the Autel IM608 and having great luck with it. Have done mostly brand new Nissan's where all keys are lost. Some Mopar, Ford, GM. Haven't had a vehicle that I couldn't program yet but I am aware it will happen. Have most factory scan tools as a backup.

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Jim Owner/Technician
Amherst, Ohio
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Hi Andrew. Thanks for the reply. I also have several OE scan tools. I really don't want to spend money on an immobilizer tool only to find that it gives me the same capabilities that I already have. Do you find owning the IM608 is advantageous?

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Andrew Owner/Technician
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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This is my only "immobilizer" scan tool that I have so far and I love having it. We own a towing company and have some accounts with rental companies so we often do AKL on very new vehicles. Have been able to program keys to all cars I have tried. If you are not wanting to do any EEPROM work I would suggest going the IM508 route and purchasing the XP400 if you see the need. Mostly depends on…

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