Interest in fundamental articles and/or video?
it doesn't take long to see that there are a number of talented technicians on this forum, and Im proud to be a founding member of a platform that allows them (and me!) to further hone their skills and advance to even higher levels. But I have to ask - should we also make efforts to provide resources to those not quite at that level yet?
Many mobile technicians have shared a common thread with me I think we, as a community of technicians, need to address. They share that most calls they are asked to become involved with are solved through the application of fundamental techniques and processes. And as the technical editor of the nation's oldest automotive trade publication, I've seen it personally in shops, schools and events around the world.
Many technicians struggle with basic electrical troubleshooting, are being taught repair methods that were antiquated a decade or more ago by well-meaning mentors, and just don't understand the actual complexity of the modern automobile - or the impact that the application of improper processes or procedures can make on its systems.
Should there be a library of resources here that these techs can turn to? Sources, perhaps, that are vetted by Diag.net to insure that the Google "gurus" are kept out? To be clear, I know of a number of legitimate YT channels that share accurate knowledge and I am not against them. But there are also way more that are demonstrating processes that are downright dangerous. And many of the automotive YT channels are of the content creator performing a certain repair or diag on a certain vehicle. My thought is to keep this "library" more generalized.
Comments? Opinions?
After watching and learning from many of your videos,I would say yes to a library of resources. We all don't know everything, and weren't always as knowledgeable as we are today. I myself have an insatiable appetite to learn new things and different processes, and know I have benefited from the help of fellow techs.
Pete, I too joined to learn and bounce idea's off of like minded individuals, and while I am nowhere near the level of most of the guys and gals on this site I too hope to someday be able to contribute something valuable. With that being said my experience is much like yours and what the mobile guys are seeing. Frequent "problem cars" from other shops that are diagnosed with simple voltage
I have seen the same apathy you describe all around the country. The shop where I last worked as a technician was a perfect example. And there is a cure - shop owners must instill a culture of learning in their businesses and make it clear that standing still in your profession is not "acceptable". Many shop owners are doing just that and reaping the benefits. I also have learned, through my
Pete, When I reread what what I wrote I realized that it came across more negative than I had anticipated and didn't really address what you were asking. It wasn't so long ago when I came across all of the great information that Motorage and TST was putting out for free or next to nothing. At the time I thought I had hit the jackpot because live training was a luxury You are right there are a
I agree with Joseph, most of the issue is the techs themselves. I encounter 3 issues: #1. Training ALWAYS occurs after hours, on the techs time, with NO compensation. Many are lucky if the shop pays for the class! Some won't even do that. It's very hard to spend nights/weekends doing training with everything else going on in a person's life. So many don't want to attend. Also most shops don't
#3 Is unfortunately something that occurs far too often in the industry. Whether it is directly related to a busy day, warranty not paying for further diagnosis or management not allowing for in depth diagnosis. I heard some manufactures are increasing labour in an attempt to inhibit part throwing.
I completely agree Pete, but from the trainers point of view I can also add this. If anyone tries to sell a class on electrical fundamentals or basic scan tool operation, no one would attend. Even though we all know that is exactly the type of classes that should be presented to the majority of techs over anything labeled “Advanced” Some (not all!) in this industry have learned that internet
I absolutely agree Pete. I have a dual role. I train dealership student apprentices from near "zero" skills through to readiness to include some, or at least be prepared to absorb more advanced level training at the journey person level and beyond. For students or any persons struggling to survive on lower incomes, it is my opinion that being required to purchase several expensive texts can be
I taught a basic electricity class at AASP-PA Shop Survival Summit last year (Now the TOOLS conference). It wasnt supposed to happen but it was booked as a filler class because of some issues that caused other instructors to drop out. It was a class that my Dad wrote and taught for Snapon a few times back in the 90s, and it was chosen because I had very little time to prep it and I could do it
Great post Pete, Here in the UK, I've seen a shift in the workforce from " I don't do electrics because Bob in the corner does all the diag" to a real thirst for fundamental training. Even Bob in the corner has realised that the days of keeping the "Dark Arts" to himself are over.I'm building a fantastic, hungry, community of technicians that see the value in investing in the fundamentals…