Mileage logging

Maynard from Elmira Technician Posted   Latest  
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Hi everyone

Our company is interested in possibly doing some in house R&D to try creating a device capable of extracting vehicle mileage from the onboard modules and making it readable from the cloud. This would be to keep track of maintenance for fleets and so on, send them an email because truck #(__) is due for service now. We have not come across any preexisting device which is able to do this. There is devices which calculate mileage abstractly but we are looking to read actual mileage from the onboard computers.

Reaching out to see if anyone is aware of such a device already on the market? and if not maybe what software is already available which would assist in this project? Another recent topic here on diag​.​net provided some useful leads.... J2534-1 engineering software from Drewtech and Silver scantool from RA consulting.

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Chris from Commack

 

Diagnostician
 

I keep wondering of there is a legality issue here. If you are able to access a module to get mileage, then how would you safeguard the rest of the module. mileage is stored in different modules. Which ones would you be reading? Are you thinking about a device not unlike those insurance dongles that record your driving style?

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Maynard from Elmira

 

Technician
 

Hi chris. Yes that would be a fair statement, not unlike those insurance dongles. And i suppose often times the mileage would need to be pulled right out of the instrument cluster...... and that is likely why OBD2 diagnostics/software is not able to read mileage, cause it doesnt fall into the mandated required publicised information. Even our Ontario drive clean test unit does not pull mileage off the vehicle, rather we enter mileage manually and take a photograph of the dash showing the mileage etc

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Jaxon from Stafford Heights

 

Technical Support Specialist
 

G'day Maynard, The bloke I spoke with from RA consulting was very friendly, Mario. He said that they could engineer specific software per function, via any module accessible on OBD protocols only. I understand that he can also organise a demo of the software, to assess suitability, using your own J2534 device. 

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Jaime from Ocala

 

Diagnostician
 

There are MANY Telematics companies that have software/devices which do that and much more. A quick Google search using the words "Vehicle Telematics" will return several pages listing such. My fleet customers have been using them since the early 2000's.

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Brian from Seneca

 

Diagnostician
 

We like Jaime have been installing telematic devices in our customers cars for several years. I read codes from my desktop, some data, and the customer gets updates via the app of necessary maintenance. They can even schedule an appointment right from the app.

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Cliff from Santa Maria

 

Diagnostician
 

What brand of hardware and software do you use for this? 

I work on a fairly large fleet and might want to present this to them. They have about 50 vehicles overall.

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Brian from Seneca

 

Diagnostician
 

Can an admin o.k. a telematic manufacturer name being mentioned on the network. I don't want to violate any forum policy that I might not be privy to.

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Scott from Claremont

 

Manager
 

Hi Brian,

As long as the info is factual and not a secret it's ok to post. Thanks for asking.

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Brian from Seneca

 

Diagnostician
 

We use the mechanic advisor. We started installing these because we're 5 minutes outside of Clemson University and many of the students there are from out-of-state. We used the functionality portion that reports dtc's and live data from the car to our program so that if a light turns on the student can text us and get an answer about how serious the problem seems on the surface. The system also interfaces with our Mitchell manager system and records at what mileage we have done services and compares them to the miles on the car to recommend services through the app. There is no GPS built into this one which people who don't want to be tracked really like. Some of my customers have telematic devices through their cell phone company which require a monthly fee and when the light comes on they're referred to a help desk type situation. When a check engine light comes on with mechanic advisor it calls or texts the shop who install it so that the customer is dealing with a familiar face. 

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Cliff from Santa Maria

 

Diagnostician
 

Thanks for the info Brian!

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Maynard from Elmira

 

Technician
 

Thanks Jamie

Do these units report actual mileage back to you as read from the vehicle or is it an abstract calculated number using gps and so on?

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Walter from Kennewick

 

Manager
 

One of our fleets uses Vyncs, as I recall it will report what it can extract, customizable as far as if truck set a DTC it will send a email or text, gps tracking , mileage, speed, overspeed alters and such. It has maintenance features but only as good as someone willing to monitor and input data. I think it was initially designed for personal use but has expanded to the fleet world. Price was reasonable compared to most. But any system with live tracking for lots of trucks is expensive.

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