Super Saturday by ASA Pennsylvania; What a great time!

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On my way back to God's waiting room as Jim Morton calls it. What a great event! Joe Tranchitella, Joseph Rakowski & David Wagner killed it! The vibe & energy was awesome! It is very clear that they wanted to put on an amazing event for their trainers, vendors and guest and they certainly hit the target. Thank you for your countless hours of dedication, love, blood, sweat & tears.

Thanks to the vendors & trainers for all that you do as well. The love of sharing your knowledge, experiences and passion is inspiring and appreciated.

It was great to see some friends and meet some new ones. Our industry has some of the best people in the world.

This trip was special because it was our beloved Jim Morton's come back after a hard year. We love you Jim! It was awesome seeing you back in your element. Thank you for everything!

We were also very thankful for having the opportunity to share this experience with a new friend Mario Rojas. If you haven't already noticed, we truly love this industry but we know that we have our challenges. We love sharing experiences like ASA PA Super Saturday with 1st timers because it allows us to show our industries professionals just how special these events really are. How so many wonderful people work hard everyday to make our careers, businesses and lives better. To be able to pull our hard working professionals out of the bay to rub shoulders and learn from our industries giants feels wonderful. We're so thankful that we got to meet Mario and help him attend this great event and show him why he should be proud of the career that he chose. What a great and deserving guy. Thanks for hanging out with us Mario!

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Scott from Claremont

 

Manager
 

Hi Brin,

It was indeed a great show and the works behind the scenes definitely showed! We need some photos added to this thread so that others that were unable to attend can see some of what they missed! And thanks to Eric Ziegler for taking a shot inside of my morning class! 

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

Scott, we will post many pictures as we get them. Thank you very much for being part of Super Saturday and hope that we do this again next year with you. I hope Diagnostic Network got the attention yesterday it deserves and that many more professionals decide to join the Diag​.​net family. I know Trained by Techs represented Diag​.​net with the utmost professionalism.

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Scott from Claremont

 

Manager
 

Thanks David,

I was very impressed with the output of you and your team in producing this event, great job! 👏 And yes, the TBT crew helped me manage the booth and represent DN well while I was attending to other duties! 

Thanks for your supportive efforts in helping DN get noticed. 

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Scott from Claremont

 

Manager
 

Btw David, Tanner really appreciated the extra welcoming feature ATC provided this year! 

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Brin from Melbourne

 

Diagnostician
 

That's awesome!

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Bruce from Spring Hill

 

Technician
 

Lol. That was just as funny on video as it was in class

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Jim from Southampton

 

Mobile Technician
 

I'm EXTREMELY PROUD of what the ASA-PA group did to show the rest of USA what they are made of. I had a glimpse more then once over the last month of how hard they were working to make SUPER SATURDAY what it was, Along with running their busy shops and working on their customers vehicles.

To the entire TRAINED by TECHS group, you guys are AWESOME, I have seen and heard over the years of what people were going to do for our industry, But very few even follow through the way you guys are, CONGRATULATIONS, I will wear the Trained by Techs shirt you gave me very proudly.

It was also GREAT seeing a lot of my friends that I have missed due to not presenting for a year. Jerry "G", Mark Warren, Scott Brown, Eric Zeigler, Craig O'Neill, Jerry Holcom, Jeremy O'Neal, Carman Capriotto, Pedro De La Torre, Amy Mattinat, Greg Buckley, Howard Pitkow, Chris Cloutler, John Francis and all of the others I forgot to mention. Next year I would LOVE to see my GOOD FRIEND Bob Chobot added to that list.

Last, It was GREAT finally after a full year of health issue to be back in front of a group of technicians that wanted to improve their knowledge and enhance their careers. It was also AWESOME seeing Brandon Steckler up in front of the largest group in the house in full control of teaching a tough subject like In-Cylinder Pressure Transducer diagnostics, It was like when my Mentor (Tom McKenna) finally had me doing a full diagnostic class by myself and he was NOT up there with me, but standing in the back of the room. I now know how he felt, GREAT JOB, Brandon

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Brandon from Reading

 

Diagnostician
 

Thank you so much for all of the care, support and investment of your time, energy and knowledge in me. You have been by far, by bigggest supporter👍

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Bruce from Spring Hill

 

Technician
 

It was a great event. But it seemed like some of the classes had low attendance. Couple classes I noticed only had 2-4 people in it

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David from Philadelphia

   

Diagnostician
   

Bruce, you are correct, some of the classes were lower attendance than we were expecting and hoping for. We certainly did the best we could, for 2 average Joe's and an average Dave, putting this event on. We spent a lot of money and time trying to attract as many people as possible, unfortunately many shops are comfortable in the positions that they are in. We have visited hundreds of shops with members of ASA-PA boot's on the ground, thousands and thousands of Mudlick flyers sent to shops in PA, NJ, DE and MD and countless number of e-mails sent to every e-mail list we could get our hands on. Not to mention the all the help from Trained by Techs, Jerry "G", Jim Morton and anyone I know I missed. If we had it our way every seat in the house would have been filled and the Fire Marshall would have been making people leave due to occupant capacity, some people just don't see the value in education yet, but they will when the industry flies right past them. 

If you or anybody else have any suggestions, please reach out to me, the first thing we do after the event is read comments and suggestions. We work very hard to make this happen while working 50-60 hour weeks at the shop and give our families attention they require and deserve from their loving husbands and fathers. This was only our 2nd year running this event, we admit there is a lot to learn.

Sorry if this came across like a rant.

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Bruce from Spring Hill

   

Technician
   

I hope you didn't think my post was directed at you and the Joes efforts. I know you guys put a lot of effort into it. I was there last year and this year, I will continue to come every year. Y'all put on a great event.

It was just an observation and disappointment in the apathy in our industry. I work with a guy, younger than me, that won't even watch some online seminars/classes in his free time. I can't even get him to watch the free stuff offered on YouTube. My boss pays for Motoskills from advance, it's loaded with AVI videos, and I'm the only one in the shop to use it.

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

No, I didn't take it that way, we were disappointed about certain things like that . In the end we realized things could have been much worse.

How is Motoskills? I've heard of it but never looked into it.

Sorry if my reply seemed like I was defending, still trying to recover from the weekend. See you again soon

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Bruce from Spring Hill

   

Technician
   

Glad we are on the same page. 

Motoskills is all AVI videos. You just don't get the new releases until a few months, or more, after they are released for sale on AVI website, aviondemand​.​com

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Bruce from Spring Hill

 

Technician
 

David, one thing I can think of to suggest is when you hand out flyers for the event, make sure the techs get flyers to. Just because you drop a flyer off at the front counter doesn't mean the techs in the back will see it. I know that I found out about the local, Tennessee, Denso/ATG training through a local parts supplier from someone in New York. You may have already done that but maybe not, IDK. 

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

Excellent advice, for some reason an employer I worked for for a very short amount of time would never keep me in the loop when training was available, even when I specifically told him I would pay out of my own pocket. That was a big reason that job didn't last. It baffles me that probably over 80% of shops have no interest in training. 

How effective do you think using the tool guys to talk to the techs would be? I would have no problem with them collecting the money and keeping 10% for commission, certainly would be a motivator.

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Bruce from Spring Hill

   

Technician
   

Not sure how well that would work. If you're offering them a cut they might be more motivated. My Snapon dealer waited til the week of the class to tell me about the Snapon scope class that was in our area. Told me on a Monday class was that Wednesday

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Bruce from Spring Hill

 

Technician
 

Guess it would depend on the tool guy

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Jim from Southampton

 

Mobile Technician
 

David, I for one witnessed first hand how you and the two "Joe's worked your butts off trying to get the techs out for some AWESOME training in their own backyard. I guess there will always be some things in our industry that will NEVER change, I spent whatever time I could before the classes started, during Breaks and at lunch looking around for who attended. As you well know, I try very hard to help out anyone I can if they are stuck on a problem vehicle, But I guess I'm getting a little upset at my "Old Age" now when I see that those shops that are always asking for help can't even send one of their techs ( or one of their techs have enough of a desire to want to improve their knowledge ). I made mental notes and also wrote notes down on who was there and who wasn't there, It will be tough for me but I will be telling some shops that I will no longer be helping out a shop that doesn't want to help themselves.

In my class alone, Myself and You Dave, we gave them the "BLUEPRINT" on how to Approach Problem Vehicles for Fast Accurate and Profitable Diagnostics, We went Step by Step of what I've been doing for over 30 years since going to Driveability and Electrical problems ONLY. But they were too busy to attend or what we hear A LOT is "We are too tired during the week for class because we worked all day and they will not give up their OWN time on a weekend for classes ???????

Jorge Menchu always brings up to me about an article I wrote for Motor Age magazine back in 1997, I sat down and wrote that article right after a shop called me in for a vehicle that had an issue that I had just gone over 2 or 3 nights before in an evening class less then a mile from his shop. I was soo upset, I wrote down my thoughts just to "COOL OFF" and when I told the editor of Motor Age ( Bill Cannon ) back then about what happened, He suggested that it should be in the Magazine. So as I said, Dave, I guess some things NEVER CHANGE...…There will always be a VICIOUS CIRCLE

The Vicious Circle As I enter my 31st year in the automotive repair profession, with the last 22 of them either owning or managing independent service facilities. I feel NO ONE can say to me “You don’t know what it is like”, I’ve been there, done that. Now after selling the last service center, I ‘am now teaching full-time in a private, Automotive Training Center until 1:30 in the afternoon, performing mobile diagnostics for the rest of the afternoon, then teaching an average of 3 nights a week in the evenings advance driveability diagnostic procedures to technicians already in the field. With my present position, I’ am able to OBSERVE a lot of technicians and service facilities. I see two problems constantly, one is the shop that calls me over and over for related problems, I’ll say “Did you know that next Tuesday and Thursday I’ll be doing a class on these particular problems, maybe you should call and reserve a space” What I hear back is “What time is it ? Oh no, there’s no way I can make it by 6:00pm I’ll still have 3 vehicles to work on by then. What I can’t seem to get across to them is, They will always have 3 vehicles to work on it 6:00pm if they don’t begin to completely understand the circuits of the modern vehicle’s computer system and how to analogically approach them. The other problem that I see a lot is the shop that realizes they need a first class technician with all the skills to diagnosis today’s vehicles, but tells me they can’t afford to pay them what they deserve. I can tell you I personally know of service facilities that are paying their top diagnostic technicians in the $70,000 range and I know service facilities paying their top mechanic in the $20,000 range. I can also tell you that the ones that are paying good money are not having a hard time finding the money to pay those technicians. WHY?, We are back to the Vicious Circle, You will never be able to generate the sales volume required for that top technician when you are wandering around the vehicle to pinpoint the problems on today’s vehicles. I’ve heard over and over “I can’t raise my hourly rate any higher” most times this isn’t the problem. I tell the shop owner to divide the total number of hours that he and his techs were at the shop last week into the total of labor that was billed out. What they usually find out is the labor rate is actually half of what they thought it was. Remember, the most important product we have to sell is our time, twenty years ago when Mr. Smith came into my shop and told me about a strange noise under the hood, I would walk out to the vehicle, open the hood and feel the play of the fan blades, I would then have the customer start the engine and hear the water pump bearing making noise. I would tell my customer to come in tomorrow for a water pump replacement. What I had just done was, I had given away the diagnosis and the following day I made my money on the physical replacement of the water pump. Today, When Mr. Smith comes in and tells me about a “Check Engine Light” on, once I correctly diagnosis the defective part it may just be a matter of removing 2 screws to something like a TPS component. So where and how we now make our money on today’s vehicles has reversed. If you’re serious about this business, you have to get serious about the proper equipment and the proper training. The days of when we could just take something apart and figure it out are gone. Try taking a solid state electronic module apart and figure it out !!!

Jim …, Owner of …’s Automotive Technical Services, 1997

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Jim from Southampton

 

Mobile Technician
 

David, In a GOOD way, I wish I could see or think of "something" that I think you and the rest of the ASA-PA group did wrong and could improve on...….BUT there isn't, I sat down with Pete Rudloff years ago when he told me that he was going to start a training group down in Delaware. I told Pete that I would help him in any way I could, But the truth of the matter is IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME TECHNICIANS THAT SEEK AND GO TO TRAINING. I don't care what state I'm in attending or presenting training, I ALWAYS see the same faces. This is the MAIN reason that I'm trying to support the TRAINED by TECHS as much as I can, I don't want to see the next generation falling into the same Vicious Circle. If they are exposed to QUALITY Training in the beginning of their career, they will become Life Long Learners, compared to the other choice that we all know happens too often, Listening to a untrained mechanic complain how they are not make any decent money. I think the real key to successful Training events in the future is working on the mission of bringing new young technicians into the Quality Training Events We already have and will continue to have the seasoned Quality Technician that is always seeking to improve themselves.

One of the most disappointing Training events that I sponsored in the "PHILLY" area before Pete decided to start the DTG training group was when I arranged and paid for Jorge Menchu from AES to come out and present an all day Saturday event and I had over 50 technicians there , But only 7 were from within a 25 mile circle of the event location ??????????? Now just take a guess where I received the most phone calls and E mails for help from ????? Correct, within that 25 mile zone.

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

Jim, thank you for the kind words. This year was quite the adventure with trying to get young blood to attend. 

I'm pretty sure the key to getting these young guys is going to be to have the event at a school that sees the value in outside and greater education and is more than willing to invite them to the event. We have ideas for next year's Super Saturday already brewing, first we need to get the surveys out to see what everyone thought.

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

I think having a young trainer like Brandon will be less intimidating to the youth and might serve as a role model for some.

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Brandon from Reading

 

Diagnostician
 

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love this idea❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Brandon from Reading

 

Diagnostician
 

Brin,

I could not have said that better, myself. The entire event was phenomenal and will yield many more attendees in the years to follow as word spreads. 

I was such an honor be to there and I’m lookimg forward to seeing everyone again!

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James from Bishop

 

Diagnostician
 

If they have one closer to home I’ll be there . Maybe Greenv S.C . Or Atlanta 

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

It was great to have you there Brandon, hope to this again soon, maybe a tag team show one day

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Brandon from Reading

 

Diagnostician
 

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!

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Thomas from Saint Petersburg

 

Diagnostician
 

After Automachanika (X2) & Vision, I simply could not attend. Your energy drives me to attend the next one....

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Chris from Martinsville

 

Owner/Technician
 

This was a great event!!! Joe,dave & joe put a lot of hard work in and it showed. I attended Brandon Steckler's class and he knocked it out of the park. Great job Brandon!! I'm honored to call you a friend. The trade was was great I was happy to see ae tools there as well as autologic ,alldata,advanced,autozone, napa, Pete's new venture and the others. Definitely can't forget the trained by tech's guys always great to see you guys, love what you guys are doing and glad to see you are getting some industry support. These guys dedicated to this industry and helping techs. With all that being said my only disappointment was the overall turn out, this was a great event with some of the best instructors and yet there were actually empty seats,it should have been standing room only. I truly hope some of the techs out there start waking up and getting more involved in there chosen industry and educate. 

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

Thank you Chris, this event will grow to sell out status in the future, we were hoping to get there this year but missed that mark. Already have ideas for next year plus we read all comments, complaints and suggestions from attendees, instructors and vendors. We appreciate all feedback, everyone should get emails to respond to in the next week or so.

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Chris from Martinsville

 

Owner/Technician
 

I'm sure it will grow to that and wanted to make sure you don't think I said that as a negative towards you guys or the event. You guys got the word out in so many ways as did a lot of us attendees it's just disappointing that when you pass on the info to so many people that really need the training and they don't take advantage of such a great opportunity like the show you guys just put on. I don't want you guys to look at this event as anything but a total success because that's what it was!!

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David from Philadelphia

 

Diagnostician
 

I did not take it that way at all. My communication skills through typing is not to sharp. And I was a little Delirious last night, even my wife was telling me I wasn't making much sense when talking to her. I woke up at 3am, put clothes on real quick thinking I needed to organize some classes. Going to take a day or 2 to recover.

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Chris from Commack

   

Technical Support Specialist
   

I'm going to have to follow this group more closely. I was not even aware of this event until Thursday afternoon. This was local for me and it seems that there was some great content. I hope to be able to make the next one.

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