Another Brick in the Wall. A KIA Sportage Story

Michael Mobile Technician Utah Posted   Latest  
Case Study
Emissions
Programming
2014 Kia Sportage LX 2.4L (C) 6-spd (A6MF2)
No Crank / No Start

So we get called out to a shop that needs a PCM programmed on a KIA Sportage. Our tech goes out there and attempts to program. Short story is that when he was done, the car would not start. CAN communications gone with PCM. Never a good sign. Especially with a PCM that costs around $1K. I have the tech bring me the PCM to test. I find that there is no activity on CAN. Connecting with a scan tool there are no comms. Dead PCM and we were the last to touch it. So I start to look for a solution. I have a good selection of PCMs. I decided I would locate one that has the same part number in my collection. Nope, I do not have one for a Sportage. This is not good. I then opt to look for another with the same 2.4L engine. I do have one from a like year Optima.

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The computer hardware is a SIM2K-240. I grab my Green Technologies VF2 tool. I connect to the original dead PCM. I am able to communicate with the PCM but it is reported as corrupted or virgin. I then connect to the Optima PCM. It is the same hardware but the calibration number is quite different. I read the P-Flash (MAPS) and save it to a folder. I then program the Sportage computer with the Optima Flash. After this step is done, I now have CAN communication back. The VIN shows up and the calibration. At this point the vehicle will likely run. I get quite nervous about shipping it with a calibration that does not match the vehicle. And what about the next guy. That might be me. What if the SES light comes on for something else, then the customer is going to be more angry.

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I then go on a quest to find out how I can get the Optima flash to update to a Sportage flash. By using the Bosch Shop Forman Pro software in OBDII mode, I can pull the calibration from the module. I get TEC4DM2A. Looking on the PCM case there is a similar number. TFAEC4DM2A.

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The red circle was from the wrecking yard. What I am highlighting has a Black rectangle around it. I found if I cross out the Second two letters, I get the calibration file name. I then go to Hxd editor to open the saved flash file. I do a search for TEC4DM2A and find it.

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I hypothesize that if I simply change this number on the three lines, there will be an update to overwrite the flash file. I try this and the J2534 app does not find any update. I seem to be dead in the water. I get thinking about it and I realize that the original issue was the customer wanted an update for a P0420. The key would be to find the TSB that would correct this. With a little effort, I am able to find the TSB. The TSB is #160 dated October of 2016. Now I find the ECU part number and can see the calibration it is looking for (old) and the one it needs to be (new).

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So I try again using SEC4MH2B.

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Ta Da! update is found and the J2534 software completes without issues! It is always a good feeling when a plan comes together. By the way, this is the kind of solutions we will be covering in Astoria Oregon in about one week. Would love to have you there! For more info on class, reach out to me at ….

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Eric Owner/Technician
Wisconsin
Eric
 

Wow! Nice job, but, Remember when Professor Farnsworth on Futurama stated “I don't want to live on this planet any more”? If this is how we are going to be repairing cars, “I don't want to work on cars any more”! ;-) How do you bill for this? I know you repaired it because your tech was the last to touch it but if this was an unavailable PCM and you were fixing if for a customer (shop or…

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

Eric, A new PCM from the dealer is about $800 shop price. You would want to be at about half that I would think. We are usually around three Bens for most cloning type work. I quite enjoy figuring out this stuff. It is like a big puzzle to me.

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Alex Diagnostician
Alabama
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Nice

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Scott Owner
California
Scott
 

Hi Mike, I know you weren't there, but what do you think happened to the original PCM? Something happened with the boot software/BIOS when initiating the update? Something was hooked into the data line - aftermarket device(s), voltage fault, DLC issue - terminal tension? Good job getting that going without needing to replace the PCM! Sounds like a lot of work, but I can see where these type…

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
   

Hi Scott, When dealing with employees you never get the whole story. He told us that he checked for an update and there was not one. He disconnected his tools and left. We got a call that the car would not start. I wonder if the update started and he did not notice or if it stopped in the middle and he did not want to tell us. I don't see any way that just checking for an update could brick it…

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Jürgen Owner
Mexico
Jürgen
 

."When dealing with employees you never get the whole story" Now, that's quite an attitude.

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Andrew Mechanic
Michigan
Andrew
 

Mike what tool are you using in the second picture?

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

Andrew, The tool is Green Technologies VF2. It is an alternative to Flex, HEXPROG and KTAG (KESS3). It is the best developed cloning tool for KIA and Hyundai out there. I can help with it if you have questions. My contact information is ….

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Anthony Owner
New York
Anthony
 

Impressive, most important thing, besides getting the vehicle running, who foots the bill for this?

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

Anthony, Since my guy broke it. It is all on me.

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