Random Act of Kindness
I, intentionally, didn't select "Diagnostic Network". My reason should be clear later. If you are not aware, "that other site" made a post yesterday in the ODF. (I'm not going to countenance them by providing a direct link.) In effect, it is an advertisement for their new site.
When writing an essay, three things are required: identify an issue, provide background on the issue and reach a conclusion & identify a solution to the issue. So, in keeping with that....
More than a few members here have commented about maintaining a sponsoring membership at "that other site". The stated reason is that so much information has been provided by them that they don't wish to lose it. (I fully appreciate that.) Others have commented that removing this information will take a lot of time and effort. I appreciate that also.
Not too terribly (well, maybe it was) long ago, there were some serious changes at "that other site". Enough so that there was a change in day-day administration. That begat DN. One of the related things that I found out was this: insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/techno…;
Now, with the "2.0" version, this is coming to fruition, "soon", according to them. Let me ask a few questions.
1: What would you do if you lost your stuff over there? Would it become less important than it is now?
2: If you looked at the announcement that I referenced above, you may have noticed a couple of things.
A: The announcement was actually on YouTube and was not a redirect to YouTube.
B: The announcement was an "it's not what you want. It's what we're going to give you."
C: The announcement is not listed on "that other site"'s Home Page. Actually, it's not listed on any page.
3: Would you support two different platforms needlessly if you ran them?
It is not unreasonable to conclude "that other site" is going away. If you value your stuff, I suggest that you get copies of it. If you wish to remove it from the site also, that's your business. If you need assistance, I'll do what I can to help. …
I won't promise it will be the most time efficient but it will work. NOTE: Reality dictates that you very may lose some of your product. In my mind, this is a time game. It's not if but when.
What I suggest that you not do is ask anyone associated with DN for assistance. I often say that I'm a very trusting person. If you ask for assistance, I trust this will be used against them in a court of law.
DISCLAIMER: I have no financial relationship with DN other than as a sponsoring member. No one, DN or otherwise, had any knowledge of this post before I posted it.
...insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/techno…; ....Leads to nowhere on my PC ?????...Dan H...South Texas...
Get rid of the last 4 characters. insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/techno….aspx
...Tanks Randall....it looks like all the good info and tips we members have provided them is going to go to great use...exactly what was intended when we provided them with it over the years...what more could a member ask for...I hope it all works out well in the end for all of us...Dan H. ...South Texas...
I dont think Brent Black had this in mind when first starting :) If we move/cancel from the other guys who is to say they cannot hold on and use info we have posted?
Sure they can. Everything that we have posted over there belongs to them and they can use it as they want.
…Craig....nothing...they can hold on to it forever(as long as they like)...it's being deprived of the "By-Line" (being relegated to a "Former Member Status" that privilege goes away) and that really chaps my ass...and (also) in doing so, they removed a great way to FIND (searching by their NAME) the contributions of some of the greatest minds that WERE here...and contributed SO MUCH thru the…
Hi Craig: The point of my post was to give a heads up that if you have uploads and posts over there that you value, you may wish to grab a copy while you can. Reading between the lines, I wouldn't be surprised if the CF (Cluster-F...) 2.0 isn't live before the end of the year. HTH, Guido
That's just plain sickening. I wish there was a way I could go and get everything I had posted over there and take it away.
Hi Albin, While I totally agree with you, at least iATN was pretty upfront with what they were doing and this was taking place while Brent still owned iATN. Solera is not the only company taking our information and then 'selling' it back to us. Snap-on, aka Mitchell is doing the same thing, although it's even worse IMHO - diag.net/msg/m5f229a010… At least with iATN you could…
Scott, So true. Everyone "mines" information these days. My circle grows smaller and smaller each day. LOL. Happy Holidays buddy.
Hi Albin: Not being a sponsoring member any longer, I'm not sure if this can be done. You can save the attachments for yourself and download them. BTW, I'm unsure of which part they didn't like this morning; me telling them that they were only breathing hard or that they were going to get stuck with an ugly camel no matter how early they got there. My life is now complete. that's the first…
It was hard for me to leave,but I just ripped the band-aid off and never looked back. I had withdrawals the first few weeks,but that has long since passed. Its a corporate entity now. Plain and simple. IMO, DN is the future and I have a few decades in me still,so Im invested here.....
I'm still there, for the time being anyway. I just got their email invite today for the 2.0 beta version. I wonder if I got their attention with my green thumb post in the ODF about maybe making 2.0 look and feel like DN and getting their selves sued. The email I received and the video they released sure looks like 2.0 will be similar.
I quit going over there and told them to close my account after learning of the lawsuit. What have the Corporatists done now?
Maybe I am missing something.....the information posted to help other technicians will continue to be used to help other technicians....okay, isn't that what our contributing posts are intended for ???
Hi Sam: I think that you are missing something. Let me try it this way. Suppose you have posted content under the assumption that you'll be able to access this content at a later date. Now, suppose that your future access is threatened but you want to be able to access your content. What do you do? Just so I am clear, my post has nothing to do with sharing anything. It has to do with being…
... It is no longer "our stuff" (individually)...it is "their stuff"...and they (so far) allow us to view it (share with us 'collectively')...is catch is...your concern is (I believe) when we (individually) are no longer allowed to do so...and I share your concern there...but there isn't a damn thing ANY OF US can DO about it,... IMNSHO...am I very far off ?...Dan H. ...South Texas...
Hi Dan: The first part of your post is accurate. The last part, not so much so. There is something that can be done about it but it will take time & effort and the clock is probably ticking. True, it may come to a point when we may no longer be able to view our posts, if we have them, we have them. We may've given permission, in perpetuity, to use our posts on that platform but we still own…