Suicide Door Latch Stuck

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2008 Ford F-250 Super Duty FX4 5.4L (5) 5-spd (5R110W)
Lower Door Latches Stuck

Anyone have suggestions about getting the doors open? Truck was purchased from Chicago and then set for at least 3 years here in NC. No idea when these doors last worked. I was expecting the plastic cables ends to be rotted off but nope. Only removed panel from drivers side so far. The lever on the latch appears to be pulled to max position, but doesn't open. Upper latch does release. Tried lubing, prying, big dead blow hammer to knock door open. Nope. Anyone have any Semtex?

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Chris Diagnostician
New York
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is there any way to get your borescope closer to the guts of the latch? It almost looks like the ball of the cable is not pulling anything

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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It's stuck in the released position. That's why the cables ball isn't touching the lever. Rusted solid.

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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My boroscope died a couple phone updates back. Need to buy another or find a way to update the old one. It was a $30 piece of crap but actually worked OK. But it was 30 feet long...no joke. The picture of latch was from phone. EDIT: Just reinstalled WIFI View and it's working again. I know I tried that before but whatever. Need to mark the end though so you can tell up from down. But I digress...

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David Mechanic
United Kingdom
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Have had door catch mechanisms not releasing due to the exterior door handle relay sticking . So if you can locate the lever that the exterior handle pushes against and lever it back the door should unlock .( its a bit like when someone grabs the door handle as you operate the central locking and you have to tell them to leave the handle alone till lock releases ) hope that makes sense regards…

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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These have a lever that sticks out of the rear door the front door pushes to lock the door so it can't be opened until front door is opened...Yikes what a sentence. At one point I was moving stuff around and it clicked like it came unlocked. But still no joy. I don't have the vehicle now. Told the customer I would prefer to replace the lower latches once it's apart as I wouldn't trust it to not…

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Billy Mechanic
New Mexico
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My daughter's 98 F250 had the same problem I loaded it down with penetrating oil (I used liquid wrench) and keep gently tapping with plastic hammer until it gave (one of those "PFM" moments PFM being pure ####ing magic) think the internal release was rusted stuck. Hope this helps (it was one of those Sunday afternoon got nothing else to do repairs 3

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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I need to pull the other side apart and see if it's the same issue or the cable housing ends. Bought the Dorman cable housing ends so have those parts. Need a good working latch to see where all the levers point in both positions. But again, need to see if they want to spend any money. Lots of cheap bastages here.

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Stuart Mobile Technician
Illinois
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There is cheap bastages everywhere​.​That's why they brought their vehicle to Pep Boys​.​When I worked at Pep Boys the customers knew how to get full refunds after all repairs were authorized and complete and a week later would come back complaining about something and bottom line I was clocking 40-50 book hours and only getting paid for 25 or 30​.​Only lasted…

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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Actually I left PepGirls last month. Working in my yard. Need to go find something else next week. Too many sub 50 hour checks. That's for TWO weeks...the manger has killed that store.

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Stuart Mobile Technician
Illinois
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The Managers are only doing what are orders from the higher ups​.​When I was working for Pep Boys, before they were bought out by an investment firm,they were rough to work for as a Tech​.​Now they are even worse​.​You have a bunch of clowns that have no ideas of the Automotive Industry or what is needed to run an Auto repair shop​.​You have to…

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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Preach it brother. The guy that convinced me to come back, I had worked at this store in …, is all about the dollhairs. He sent me his hour report from couple weeks ago. Worked 38 turned 75. The 28 year old manager has run off all his support staff. Moved our best GS tech to front counter and after one week was leaving him alone to run the store. So now...instead of having TWO people on…

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Mike Owner/Technician
Florida
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I can't understand why I have trouble finding employees, but places can treat their employees like Pep Boys did to you and still find new employees. I pay my guys a fair, hourly wage. Days off are always the same, Saturday and Sunday. Occasionally, we get get backed up and I ask one of two of the guys to help out on Saturday from 8-12 and pay double time for it and feel guilty. I can't imagine…

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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I've worked at a couple shops that had to mandate NO PHONE in shop. One just had you silence phone. I use mine a lot for pictures. Pay no attention to it otherwise. But 90% of the techs I've worked with last 5 years spend a ton pf time on phone setting up side work. I can't make money working in my driveway. Now i know i spend a TON of time bitching here and everywhere on the net. Just really…

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Mike Owner/Technician
Florida
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I still don't understand why I can't find good techs. My lowest paid tech is making just under the top range you listed. My top guy is making well over that. That is assuming 5 day work weeks all year long for them. Like I said, I pay double for working Saturdays, so they could make significantly more than what you listed.

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Stuart Mobile Technician
Illinois
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You are an independant shop​.​You are actually running your shop as a shop not a revolving door for vehicle count​.​That is the difference because you only have to answer to someone that actually knows the business of a repair shop​.​These other outfits like Pep Boys are run by people that may have a degree in Business and run it as if it were a retail…

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Mike Owner/Technician
Florida
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I think a lot of my success is that me and my techs enjoy working on vehicles that other shops are either intimidated by, inexperienced with or not equipped to work on. We work on mostly trucks, from F-150s up to Isuzu/GMC cab over trucks. Everyone around here seems to be scared of them and Duramaxes, for some reason. The local dealer for these trucks leave the more complex problem trucks sit…

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Stuart Mobile Technician
Illinois
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I was working for them 6 months and was offered to be transfered to a store in another district or be fired because my #s were down.I asked which #s​.​They said my billable hours.I showed my tickets because I kept my copy locked up in my cabinet which I learned was against policy​.​It showed I had more oyher tech and GS's comebacks and screwups that my actual # were way…

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Mike Owner/Technician
New Jersey
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Dave Tate is spot on. You need to make sure both the locking lever and release lever (on the lock itself) are in the released position. Once they are both in the released position then actuate the release handle (or push the release lever on the lock) and the lock will open. Second door will be easier once you realize how it works. Good luck!

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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These latches don't have a locking feature. Only the handle is locked so it won't operate with front door closed since the front door latches to the suicide door. These latches are basically trunk locks. The latch kits from Ford, which include upper & lower latches with cables, are about $150 per side. Gave neighbor the parts price. If they don't want to spend any money them I'm done. If i…

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David Mobile Technician
Texas
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I have dealt with several door latches that were seized shut and was able to cut the latch off with a small Dremel tool.

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Gail Technician
North Carolina
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That was my plan but radio silence from customer. They won't spend any money. Just another day around here.

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