Is a used Steering rack possible… Sure!

Kevin Technician Winnipeg, Manitoba Posted   Latest  
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2013 Ram 1500 Tradesman 4.7L (P) 6-spd (65RFE)
C2217-00
No Steering

2013 Dodge Ram comes in for no steering (VERY hard to turn) with a C2217-00 Electric power steering module internal fault code. Testing the vehicle we found it requires a new EPS (electric power steering module) which comes complete with a new steering rack and pinion at a Canadian cost of $1800 ish. My luck the dealer has (2) in stock with a ($250) core .. oh my they want these ones back! I think About possibly using a used Rack however none were availably locally. So new it is... I sell the job and install the new EPS/Rack And decide you see what’s causing these things to fail and see if a used steering rack would have been possible . I know on the last 2014 Jeep Cherokee another shop had installed a used rack and it was setting a vin mismatch code and everything I tried with a scan tool to attempt a re-configuration failed. To which i ended up telling the shop to install a new steering rack. 

Here is what I found inside the EPS/Rack

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Miguel Technician
Collierville, Tennessee
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Thanks for sharing that info

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Ricardo Diagnostician
Plymouth, Michigan
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Did you see anything obvious that cause it to fail? I can't get the videos to play

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Kevin Technician
Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Anyone else having issues watching the video’s? There was water inside the EPS which caused the internal fault code.

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Rick Technician
Glenview, Illinois
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I can't get them to play in chrome. They only work in IE for me

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Victor Technician
Whittier, California
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About video rendering... If you are using your phone your browser must be chrome by default. If you are using windows 10 switch back the settings to internet explore 11.

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Victor Technician
Whittier, California
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About video rendering... If you are using your phone your browser must be chrome by default. If you are using windows 10 switch back the settings to internet explore 11.

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James Owner/Technician
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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I had one of those a year or two ago that had broken boots, filled with water,very noisy bearings in the motor, and it would occasionally lock up solid while driving. Noisy and frightening. It got a used one, accepted it with no problem. Ram 1500, but I really don't remember the year.

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Allan Mechanic
Westlock, Alberta
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thanks! Will forward this info so we can drop labor time! Keep it up!!

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Kevin Technician
Winnipeg, Manitoba
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How would this drop labor times? I am not sure I follow you?

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Victor Technician
Whittier, California
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The most common issue with these Module is lack of comm... So replacing the tranceiver MCP2531 would make the miracle as well. You also can copy the eeprom and save it in your BIN files repository for later. sometimes the eeprom get busted (eraised) by battery wrong connections. Good job. Is that a UPA programmer? Please talk to me. ...Achieveing the impossible.... 🤏✅

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Ricardo Diagnostician
Plymouth, Michigan
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So what do you do when the eeprom gets erased? Do you have to do the eeprom file read /write or a simple witech calibration flash?

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Victor Technician
Whittier, California
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Well... edit it, No you can't Reflash a replacement is another expensive solution. Yes. That's why is a good practice to save the file for later; then you can edit accordingly. Using a blank eeprom.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Kevin, You never cease to amaze! Great write up. I had a used one last week that was already installed on a Chrysler 200. I had to walk away.

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Gerald Owner/Technician
Winfield, Missouri
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Is it not possible to change the vin on one of these newer Chrysler parts? I seen in his information that it had vin 1 and what looked like vin 2

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Gerald, I have tried on multiple occasions using Witech to marry a used Electric Power Steering module to a Chrysler. It fails the PROXI learn and will not correct in restore vehicle configuration. There may be a back door or easter egg but I have yet to learn. There are efforts to write an aftermarket application to address this but it is not available yet. The "official" answer to this is to…

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Kevin Technician
Winnipeg, Manitoba
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100%^

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Bill Owner/Technician
Jackson, Michigan
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Kevin nice write up as usual & thanks for all you share!

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Allan Instructor
Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Excellent write up Kevin. Thanks for sharing that information and the videos.

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Michael Technician
Amherst, Massachusetts
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Nice case study with the videos and reading the eeproms. How would you transfer the file to another module?

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Bill Owner/Technician
Jackson, Michigan
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You read the eeprom data, save it to a file and then rewrite the module to be installed

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