Virginizing junkyard modules

David Diagnostician Georgia Posted   Latest  

Looking into adding the ability to virginize junkyard modules and ran across this tool online that seems to good to be true.

I plan on using it for GM vehicles in short term then expanding to others later on.

ecutools​.​eu/chip-tuning/io…

Does anybody have experience with this?

Is there a more economical way to accomplish the same thing?

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Jamie Owner/Technician
Ontario
Jamie
 

With the present shortage of modules to be installed into new cars, I figure that there will be a shortage of modules available for the ones already on the road. We are starting to see modules no longer available from the OE and used not an option for various reasons. I have considered the I/O terminal, however, I wouldn't have a clue as to where to start with modifying the software. I wish…

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David Diagnostician
Georgia
David
 

You nearly just have to take a leap of faith and immerse yourself into it and hope you do not spend the profit out of the job learning, or at least be able to process enough of them to make your investment back.

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Jamie Owner/Technician
Ontario
Jamie
 

Fair enough, that's what I figured. However, at my age it likely doesn't make sense.

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Paul Mechanic
Illinois
Paul
 

Have you contacted Micheal Christopherson?

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Scott Owner/Technician
Michigan
Scott
 

ioterminal works well for the modules it supports (gm is mainly ecm bcm and tcm and not all module variants are supported) In order to virginize with ioterminal you would need to have a virgin file read out of an identical module that has not been installed/programmed otherwise (near)cloning is possible if you can read the vehicles original module (providing it is still present and it…

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David Diagnostician
Georgia
David
 

Do you think I can clone this BCM? LOL

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Jamie Owner/Technician
Ontario
Jamie
 

My uneducated suspicion is that it may be too late..lol

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David Diagnostician
Georgia
David
 

When I say clone, I meant everything but the fried ants of course. 😜

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Scott Owner/Technician
Michigan
Scott
 

not sure if ioterminal will do that one if it communicates it would be worth trying to read I have not purchased the ioterminal gm bcm function as the newer gm global a bcms that I would normally be using it for have been in stock and very reasonably priced (I refuse to reverse engineer a bcm that the gm dealer can have to me in under 2 hours for $68…

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Jamie Owner/Technician
Ontario
Jamie
 

I agree which is why I haven't bothered with it. I wonder if there will be a shortage moving ahead ?

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

Scott. The benefit of IO Terminal for BCM is not so much being able to use second hand but that it reduces the time needed to replace. You can copy and paste the original to the new or donor in less time than it takes to reset the immobilizer and learn keys. After it is done the module is plug and play with everything ready to go.

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Scott Owner/Technician
Michigan
Scott
 

I enjoy sipping coffee while programming modules…. (I own the ford bcm function and use it as ford is backordering a ton of modules and when you try and use a used f250-350 bcms in f450 and f550 applications you run into pats and tpms issues galore

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Mike Instructor
California
Mike
 

Hi Scott: could you please explain what you mean when you say that you own the Ford BCM function"? Thanks!

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

For IO Terminal there are different functions or modules. Each with a particular specialty. GM ECU is one, TCM, BCM, EPS are all separate modules. Ford BCM is also a separate module.

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Mike Instructor
California
Mike
 

Thank you!

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Scott Owner/Technician
Michigan
Scott
 

Michael answered your question ioterminal is sold similar to abrites where the interface is one cost and then you buy software packages/additional functionality as needed

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Mike Instructor
California
Mike
 

Thank you!

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Jason Owner/Technician
Virginia
Jason
   

Might still could. Usually the memories are still accessible. If you replace with same part number you can just copy eeprom. If trying to clone whole unit, I cant remember the older styles but its probably still simular to newer ones with NEC V850 mcu for code programming and 24c16 for eeprom. I just use original xprog from eldb for them. Never tried I/O but I have always heard good things about…

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Thanassis Owner/Technician
Illinois
Thanassis
 

Yes David is clonable most of the times. You have to get the datasheet for the processor in the circuit and find out if it has internal eeprom or external. if is external its much easier to copy and wright the data in the used or new bcm.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael Resolution
 

The IO Terminal can read and write data on several Global A modules. Many PCMs, BCMs, TCMs and two EPS modules. I would be very careful about “virginizing” modules commercially. This would require taking information off a new module and writing to a second hand one. Re-manufactures have gotten in trouble for this practice. That being said, yes the Bosch BCM should be covered. I have personally…

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David Diagnostician
Georgia
David
 

I appreciate the heads up on not doing it commercially, I make it a point to avoid trouble.

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David Diagnostician
New York
David
 

Michael, Don't you sell the I/O Terminal??

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Boyd Technical Support Specialist
Georgia
Boyd
 

Michael never uses this technical forum to sell products. That is cause for a great deal of respect!

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David Diagnostician
New York
David
 

Boyd, I saw that the original poster was looking to get one of these units, so I just wanted to make sure that Michael still sold them as that is where I plan to get mine when I pull the trigger. I'm sure that there are other places to get them, but, when I have questions it would be Michael that I would want to be talking to.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

I do however I am not on here to advertise product. I am here to share information.

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Florin Technician
Ontario
Florin
 

Did you try this tools? cgdishop​.​com I don't know how well they work in domestic but they are excellent for import vehicles. Have a look and brouse their site. Their Euro stuff is great and tech support is also good. Good luck

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
Michael
 

I use the CGDI Mercedes Tool and have several others. They are very similar to functions in im608/ im508 (Autel) and VVDI tools. CGDI has a steering lock emulator for Mercedes that is pretty cool. It makes a sound like the steering lock when activated. So far, the US Domestic products are only lightly covered.

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Peter Technician
New Jersey
Peter
 

I perform services like that, im using vvdi and cgdi tools for some mercedes, beside I'm using alientech kess/ktag and magicmotorsport FLEX tools you can clone ECU/TCU with that, also you can compare internal flash and eeprom and edit them either for tuning or immobilizer purpose , latest update allows all ZF TCUs to be edited/copied/virginized

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