I Wanna Kill!

Anthony Technical Support Specialist Pennsylvania Posted   Latest   Edited  

Apologies to Arlo though it won't be long until Thanksgiving. I thought that I mentioned something about this when it was released but apparently not. I found it to be rattling good yarn about the love affair between IoT and V2V. This episode is brought to you by the letter "M". Money begins with "M".

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Tis a bit long on the face of it but it's double-spaced with a lot of citations. You may find some items of interest. There are a few items which I found of interest. I didn't know the one hack was a 2009 Impala. Pages 40-41 gets to the heart of the issue of why things aren't being fixed. They very well may've been designed this way intentionally. (NOTE: my words, not the article's.) I don't know about anyone else but they stand a better chance of engaging in digital manipulation with a female mountain lion before they'll get me to pay for telematics. (I usually phrase it somewhat differently.)

The zombie apocalypse point is well taken. But will it be taken well? I remember attempting to have a conversation with Paul Baltusis (Ford at the time) and Jack Woodward (GM, unsure where he's at these days). I kept losing my internet connection. (In BFE, telephone poles are sometimes used for target practice, by cars.) We were discussing the design limitations of car ECMs vs. trucks. This must've been before 2000 because that is when I left Ryder.

Anyhow, I pointed out the obvious limitations in car ECMs. They pointed out that a Cummins ECM was about $3500 in those days compared to $150-200 for a car ECM. They were attempting to get me to understand that stockholders wouldn't go for a 25 cent increase in the cost of producing a car. Whereas, a (real) truck is a vocational vehicle. If the wheels don't turn, it don't earn. It'll be interesting to see them screaming bloody murder if a "Kill Switch" is ever mandated.

If you're looking for me, I'll be on the Group W bench playing with the pencils.

Guido

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George Owner/Technician
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sitting right there on the group W bench on whitehall street smoking cigarettes and all sorts of thing...........(Alice's restaurant. Arlo Guthrie)

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Karl Educator
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Maximum Overdrive comes to mind......

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Bob Owner/Technician
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This is shaping up to be a huge problem. It's already happening. Car hacking theft of 100 Mercedes There are many ways these vulnerabilities will be exploited. The article you posted sheds new light on this story. Was Michael Hastings murdered?

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Scott Owner
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Hi Guido, While that is a valid concern and one that needs to be addressed, I do not think this is the only threat we face today. The bigger picture in my mind would be virtually everything in our daily life is dependent on computers, programming, software...Our utility companies, our financial markets, banking, our personal information, our cities and government, the infrastructure of this…

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
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Hi Scott: If you take the "30,000 foot view", the problems that you note seem to be the same problems as described in the article. These types of things can happen when you build your house on the beach. Believe it or not, it actually ties back into some of your (and Eric's) comments about staying in your lane. I don't "see". My brain doesn't work that way. What I can do is find the bugs in…

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Bob Owner/Technician
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In a nutshell I think you could say that all these connected systems are making it easier for troublemakers to cause havoc on a grand scale.

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Scott Owner
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Hi Bob, It's not just connected systems. Have you heard of the Stutznet worm that supposedly was developed by our government and the Israeli government? I say supposedly as the true authors never came forward. This worm was designed as a cyber weapon to attack Iran's nuclear development program and it's estimated that 984 of their centrifuges were damaged by this worm. A few interesting…

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Bob Owner/Technician
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Hi Scott, Yes I remember that. I believe the worm caused the centrifuges to spin out of control while the gauges showed everything was fine. At least that's what I seem to recall reading.

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Scott Owner
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Hi Guido, Pretty insightful thinking for a 'mechanic', Guido. BG Our government was founded with certain principles in mind knowing where they came from and what they wanted to avoid. What we're experiencing now is when things get out of balance, although that was a part of the wisdom of the original Framers to put Checks and Balances in place. Their rational was that one branch of government…

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Jaime Diagnostician
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When my car's infotainment system informs me I must insert XXX number of bitcoins before I'll be allowed to go to work, is when it would be of highest priority in MY life. However, I'll agree there are many worries about the web but rarely do I feel qualified to prioritize any. Just my humble $0.02.

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
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I would hope the cost is more like inset 0.000XX Bitcoins as $5.00 is only 0.00049 btc

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
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I love the kill switch rhetoric. Wouldn't a hacker just code out the kill switch input first? or couldn't the software be written to auto execute at the next time it drives over 50 mph? By the time a driver would realize there was a problem, the software would have been compromised. With drive-by-wire throttle, brakes, shifters, and even steering that kill switch would be required to force all 4…

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
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Hi Chris: I can't say that you're wrong. You're thinking. Isn't that what validation testing is supposed to be about? Guido

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Jaime Diagnostician
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"digital manipulation with a female mountain lion" --- Now that right there's funny $#!t. I knew with the first sentence referencing (Mr. Guthrie) that I was going to find this read entertaining. Thanks Guido!

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