Good VAG pin code reader

Sean Owner Cornville, Arizona Posted   Latest  
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2006 Audi A4 2.0L (F BPG) (01J)—WAUEF78E66A220031

I'm wondering what's out there for pulling pin codes on newer VAG vehicles. I do automotive locksmithing, and have an lsid. I have a good friend, who only has one key for his daughters 2006 A4 Quattro 2.0t. Using the autopro app on my phone, it shows that it's pretty much hit, or miss to be able to program keys on this generation. I went ahead, and ordered a new flip key for it, and plugged in my MVP Pro, and tried every option for pin code pulling, and nothing worked. I then tried my Autel scanner, same result. I'm pretty sure that if I had the pin, I could program it with the Autel, or the MVP Pro.

What devices out there will pull pin codes, or is it factory tool only? Factory tool is out of teh question for me, because I work on 2 VAG vehicles per year.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hi Sean, After about 2004 VW/Audi migrated to a more secure system. In addition to the code which is harder to locate, there is component security. Currently the best tool I know of is the Abrites tool. It can locate this information and write it to the immobilizer. It is very expensive and the support in the USA is pretty lackluster. You can use the ODIS system once you are cleared by VW and

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Paul Owner/Technician
Boulder, Colorado
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I have not used VVDI2, but it appears pretty good for German cars but it is $2100 youtu​.​be/gSetn2l156s However, I have used VVDI Key Tool (their handheld unit not VVDI2) and sniffer upgrade/smartphone app (total cost around $600) to make plenty of VW … era "ID48" flip keys, easy peasy with their smartphone app and "sniffer" feature. youtu​.​be/Yao3Bhx0MCo You

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hey Paul, Does the iKey820 do parameter resets on late model Fords?

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Paul Owner/Technician
Boulder, Colorado
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I'm not sure what you mean by parameter resets but the latest version with Ford/Toyota update does support AKL (all keys lost) which resets the MyKey "responsible driving" limitations on late model fords.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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2015+ F150 and Mustang (maybe others) BCM replacements require a "parameter reset" in order to authorize a new module. From my understanding it is a seed key shared between the PCM and BCM. In IDS it used to ask for the code. (incode/outcode) it is all transparent to the user and requires an LSID. The Smart Pro and MVP bypass the need for the Incode/Outcode with software. So far I have not got a

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Justin Mobile Technician
Herriman, Utah
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Paul, do you know if the 820 will do all keys lost on a newer (2015) VW?

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Scott Owner/Technician
Brantford, Ontario
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zedfull , Vvdi 2, super vag , should get you thru most , Vvdi as others have said is the best option i clone these for duplicates, lost keys i call in a friend with super vag and hope we can make it thru,. cloner I use is the key line mini , you just drop the chip in the slot under the flip key head and then program in the remote .There are other cloners like xhorse and handy baby that I

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Bruce Manager
Lansdale, Pennsylvania
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We (…) get asked this question everyday... there is nothing out there that covers it all except running ODIS on your J2534 box. ODIS is the answer if you are in the business. I hate writing that. But as long as VAG keeps the PIN stuff buried and requires a server connection to make the keys properly (and to code Immo), no aftermarket solution will be complete. You best bet is to get

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John Owner
Medford, New York
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Bruce, First off kudos on an excellent product in Ross Tech (Vag Com). I use it and I am very happy. lt is without a doubt the best bang for the buck scantool on the market. ODIS with a J2534 device can be hit or miss on early Immobilizer systems on K line vehicles. Nothing beats the OE interface. The other issue I encounter is aftermarket keys will most likely not program with ODIS or Ross

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Bruce Manager
Lansdale, Pennsylvania
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Thank you John for the kind words about our VCDS product. Deeply appreciated. Yes, we have heard about the hit or miss on the older VAG cars. For those you really need the older official VAG Tool - the 5053 if memory serves. Yes, we have also heard reports that only VAG keys will program. Wouldn't we all love to have the ability to do keys through VCDS? Unfortunately, we don't ever see our

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Robert Technical Support Specialist
Lewisville, Texas
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When you use Odis for this process save the long log as the pin code will be in plain site within the log. This way you will have it for the next time you need to do any immo work, with the pin you can use VCDS.

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