Ever Since You Installed Tires On My Altima, It Won't Start

Michael from Clinton Mobile Technician Posted   Latest  
Case Study
Electrical
2008 Nissan Altima S 2.5L (QR25DE)
No Crank / No Start

Last week I was called to a shop that had a dead Nissan in the parking lot. It was a no crank, no start. Push button start vehicle. The dash would not light up. The situation was that the vehicle was taken into the shop and tires were installed. The vehicle was pulled out and parked. When the customer went out to take the car home, it did nothing. The shop techs tried to figure out the problem. They thought it may be a problem with the push button itself. Without the dash lighting up they had nowhere to go. I was already on site working on another vehicle. The service advisor asked me to help.

So without dash lights, how do you scan a Nissan? From my Advanced Diagnostics key programmer training, I remembered that by turning on the emergency flashers, the bus wakes up a few security related modules. I hooked up the Autel tool that I had with me and pulled the codes. B2013, B2562, B2607, B2609, B2612, B26E9, B2109, B210. All of these point to the steering wheel lock. A quick search showed this is a common problem. This part is even supplied by Dorman Products. I don't think it was smart of the engineers to kill the cluster when the gears strip within the steering wheel lock. At least by using the flashers some communication goes on.

Hopefully this helps others when they get into this situation.

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Matthew from Lawrence

 

Technician
 

Nice write up Michael. I've seen this a few times. The tech tip I learned was to whack the steering lock module with a dead-blow hammer and it comes back to life temporarily. Quick and crude diagnosis

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Michael from Clinton

 

Mobile Technician
 

Good Trick, It works with GM fuel pumps and Nissan steering locks!

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Geoff from Lahaina

   

Diagnostician
   

That flashers trick is pure gold, Mike!!

After digging through some diagrams I see that the "Electronic Steering Column Lock" connects to both the BCM and the IPDM.

Any chance the shop parked on a hill without the parking brake?

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Geoff from Lahaina

 

Diagnostician
 

WOW! NAPA list price on that Dorman part is $800. I better hope none of our "customers" ever need one, cuz that car will sit here for weeks until they find the money.

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Michael from Clinton

 

Mobile Technician
 
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Geoff from Lahaina

 

Diagnostician
 

Good lord! I looked on RepairLink for OE list and it's only $77. Why would ANYbody pay four (Amazon) to ten (Napa) times as much for Dorman? That's just crazy. Thanks for pointing that out. I've had a few cases where the dealer part was cheaper than AM but never a ridiculous amount like this one,

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Joel from Soquel

 

Diagnostician
 

nice tip !!

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