Need Known Good Cam And Crank Wave Form

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2009 Saturn Aura XR 2.4L (B) 6-spd (6T40)
P0017 — Crankshaft Position - Camshaft Position Correlation Bank 1 Sensor B

I need help with known good cam and crank wave form. 

thanks 

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Tim Curriculum Developer
California
Tim
 

This one is from a VIN B engine on a Sky. It only shows the 2 cam sensors (intake bottom, exhaust top), but with only one correlation code this comparison may be what you need. If yours look the same at a hot idle, then a CKP comparison is needed (and I don't have one at this time).

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Joel Diagnostician
California
Joel
 

thank you

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Joel Diagnostician
California
Joel
 

I am working on the vehicle on Saturday I will let you know

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Sam Mobile Technician
Michigan
Sam
 

Do you know if that is the same correlation as a 2.4 eco tech? Like a cobalt or malibu?

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Tim Curriculum Developer
California
Tim
 

If the 8th VIN is a B then it should be exactly the same no matter what they drop it into. GM doesn't swap triggers mid-year like Chrysler. So it's possible there are variations, but I doubt it.

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Geoff Diagnostician
Hawaii
Geoff
   

LOL Tim! Those Dodge/Jeep 4.7 engine swap no-starts with the wrong trigger wheels are quite famous in "case study world" I bet. I've seen it enough in iATN circles.

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Anthony Technical Support Specialist
Pennsylvania
Anthony
 

Hi Geoff: Some of them also had 2 different types of injectors. Fun with Dick & Jane is when the wrong engine is installed and then they start swapping injectors from one engine to the other. :) Guido

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Geoff Diagnostician
Hawaii
Geoff
 

Great tip! Have only seen the wrong injectors after a swap on Rangers where one had FlexFuel and one didn't. What's funny is, when they get really old, neither of the color-band choices are what either of them look like anymore. (IIRC; was a few years ago)

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
New York
Chris
 

I've seen the injector swap issue on explorers too. It seems only an issue on the 4.0L though

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Joel Diagnostician
California
Joel
 

not sure

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Justin Mobile Technician
Utah
Justin
 

There should be several in the resources section on here. They need a better linking system from the main entrance to the site.

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Justin Mobile Technician
Utah
Justin
   

Here’s the way to find it. Go to the top of the home page. Next to post is a magnifying glass. Click that and put in 2.4L under the All GM option that comes up after you click the magnifying glass. I have posted some there. diag​.​net/msg/m10i1mpx0w…

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Joel Diagnostician
California
Joel
   

I have my capture here . the vehicle only runs rough during start up in the first 10 seconds, customer states vehicle runs good plenty of power all time issue is only during start up. I recorded the dtc , and check freeze frame data the dtc set on 27 second after start up P0017. I confirmed customer concern I have a video when fault occurred, recorded data , dtc info, clear code and road test

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Joel Diagnostician
California
Joel
 

I have seen you post some wave forms how ever I have not find the way to to search them on the diag .net web site can you please show me for future , I appreciate your help I saw your post down below thanks.

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Justin Mobile Technician
Utah
Justin
 

diag​.​net/msg/m52sfsx6r6…

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Joel Diagnostician
California
Joel
 

thank you .

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