Chrysler Did it Again…
Flash Performance Garage has a very Informative video illustrating issues you may have encountered or will encounter in the near future in your service bay.
2018 and Newer Fiat/Chrysler products are equipped with a Security Gateway Module. This module hinders most functions of the scantool other than a code scan.
Autel has created a By-pass adapter to allow full bi-directional controls. With this tool, and some digging to find the SGM, you can now gain access
You can purchase this tool from our friends, AESwave or an authorized Autel tool distributor.
This is a great example of the many benefits of using the OEM Scan tool. With WiTech and an active subscription, this hassle can be completely avoided. If your business model does not support the need for a WiTech, at least autel provides a solution. AESwave also sells the MicroPodII found here:
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think the Right to Repair act will change this or will this become a way of the future? Will aftermarket scan tool engineers develop software bypasses instead of an invasive hardware bypass?
Brian nice job complaining information...I think you bring out a real good point that if you don't have a Micro Pod II you in for more work and an added expense to the Chrysler owner. Not sure how many shops want to start taking stuff apart to scan a vehicle. As the vehicle gets older things break alot easier. I think that other OEs will follower Chrysler's lead and companies such as Autel will
Unfortunately right to repair came along just as security / adas / fear of their vehicles being hacked was made an extremely high priority. We're just seeing the beginning of it now. Chrysler isn't the only one doing this stuff. I had to enter lsid credentials into FDRS recently just to program a RCM (airbag module) on an 18 Ford Ecosport. The shops that are coasting along, not staying current
Brian as Robert has said, Chrysler isn't the only one doing this, Ford has started with vehicles that are only FDRS compliant and you can't even use IDS on them. I've played with a few cars that are FDRS compliant with my snap on scanner. And I can get into it on the OBD side of it only. Otherwise it ID's it as a 90's vehicle and won't communicate. FDRS is a cloud based program that you must
Brian, As Robert said you have to adapt. This is one of the many reasons that OE tooling is a necessity if you want to go A-Z on a vehicle. Many instructors preach the R2R myth that once you have a J box you will have full OE capabilities. That is a lack of research, education, and field experience. There are always holes with this type of tooling. Whether it be model year restrictions…
You can access OBD side for inspections and that is about it as far as I could tell. Sometime this week I'll grab one off the lot and do some demo with my Snap on and the FDRS
For obd inspections they just read codes. To the best of my knowledge the sgw module will let you read codes in all modules.
Yes, you can still see those with a generic scan tool.
I have a 2018 Compass in the shop right now for an engine replacement. It does not have a SGW module, so it would be advisable to recognize that at least 17-18 MY vehicles may or may not have a SGW module. I have not seen a SGW module on a 17 (yet). I was told by a major tool supplier that in order for A/M scan tools to be able to have access to the full complement of scan tool functions on
Hi Bob: You've noted what many have not. That is the vehicles which use an SGW. You've also noted the proper name for it. That's more than Mr. Schnitz of Autel has done. There is quite a bit of misinformation, FUD and people not knowing what they don't know but wearing their ignorance as a badge of honor going on out there. I'll let you determine where a National Sales Manager for Autel falls
Hi Brian. I referred to the GM implementation of Serial Data Gateway Modules (SDGM) (aka Central Gateway Module) in these previous posts. diag.net/msg/m4gnxx6lq2… and diag.net/msg/m5on82rckc… Essentially these pretty much came to light on GM vehicles in 2017, first with isolation of infotainment and telematics modules, which could be breached by cyber attack through