Is it my imagination or just bad luck but do any of you experience failures programming aftermarket keys using O..E equipment?
I can cite specific examples if requested.
I can only speak for Jaguar Land Rover vehicles but whenever an other shop or client brings in an ‘eBay special key’ they tend to work only 30% of the time.
Depend on market and make manufacturing some key are preprogram from factory in order to complete programming the best tool on market for keys programming is advanced diagnostic so far they were successful programming aftermarket and oem keys so some people like oem tools and aftermarket tools
It is hit or miss. I have good luck with the reputable aftermarket suppliers. If they came off the inner web at a price of 2 for $9, most of the time they won't work, using OEM or aftermarket programming.
"aftermarket keys" could be anything. Any trouble with Strattec? I was told they are an OEM supplier for many.
I don't do many but I wont waste my time with after market.I tell the customer up front only oem dealer bought keys.
Stratec and Ilco seem to work well with Ford, not sure about other AM suppliers
Regarding the off-brand ones (not OES), we just avoid dealing with them. If they do program correctly, their life expectancy is too questionable anyway. Programming immobilizers has enough pitfalls in the best-case scenarios.
Can you give a few examples and be more specific? Are your speaking of the security portion / or the integrated Key-less transmitter, or smart keys / push button start? I have used ILCO and Stratec for GM Ford and Chrysler in the past and in hundreds of those I have had 1 bad H-92 PT, a few bad Y160PT's For the IKTs I had used many suppliers but let me tell you that you get what you pay for…
We are a Euro shop, we never try to program aftermarket key, there are a couple of hacks in town that have destroyed a few modules trying to get them to work - we have seen cut wires to attempts to by pass security measures
Even though the answer is general, I would ONLY go with the known good. The ebay and inner web specials are a pit fall for sure. Those keys prove the saying "you get what you pay for". In our business, a short cut in electronics almost ALWAYS bites us in the azz.
Todd, We have found since launching SDRM 2 and changing our method of performing background checks that there are a staggering number of counterfeit (we are not talking aftermarket) keys and transponders coming into the country. These are generally inexpensive (but not always) and use many distribution channels. NASTF is working with Customs and Border Patrol, Homeland Security's Intellectual…
Donny, thank you for this update - it will help us educate the motorist
My pleasure sir. Now that we have made it through the storm of bad actors and migration I will be pushing more of this stuff out. New training videos from all the things we learned are being edited at AVI now.
Thanks to all for their responses, I am considering purchasing all the goodies, including cutting and cloning equipment. This way I can be in control of the transactions because right now I get the shops I service to obtain the necessary keys and such.
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Todd, You are on the right track. I purchased a key machine, and I purchase keys form a locksmith distributor. I have had too much trouble with "Amazon" and "eBay" keys. I have also noticed the keys that do not work, have no part number or fcc number stamped on them. I have stopped trying to program them. Find a trusted, legitimate source for keys and equipment.