Used Ford Cluster, What about the mileage?

Michael Mobile Technician Clinton, Utah Posted   Latest  
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Programming
2007 Mercury Montego Premier 3.0L (1) (CFT30)
Mileage Correction

Quite often I get calls to install used modules in vehicles. The instrument cluster can be problematic. Coding a Ford cluster is not usually a problem. It is getting a cluster with mileage that is close enough. This customer had a replacement cluster with about 60K less than the original. Some may say, count your blessings! In many states the mileage is tracked when getting inspections for safety or emission tests. So if you go in for inspection and all of the sudden the vehicle looses miles, there is some explaining to do.

This customer had me come out due to a traction control lamp being on after installing a used cluster. I used Forscan to correct the As Built data. The light was then off. The odometer read 108,630 and the original had 170,655 miles. I thought I would try the AutoProPad to see if it could change the odometer. It was in the software but I had my doubts. I connected to the vehicle and ran the process. It worked! The only glitch I found is that whether you choose miles or Kilometers, the software reports the stored mileage in Kilometers. Whatever you punch in goes in as Miles or what the display says. The miles you input will not be exactly the same miles but really close. I have uploaded some screenshots so you can see how it works. They are not in order. Not sure how to sort them.

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Chris Diagnostician
Bryans Road, Maryland
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I always wondered if that function actually worked or not. Thanks for the info

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Robert Mobile Technician
Newark, Delaware
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Unfortunately this niche type of work. When ordered new from the dealer the cluster comes from a certified Ford repair facility that corrects the mileage. There is specialty software available that will let you correct the mileage but it's not as simple as plugging into the obd2 connector and pressing some buttons. Most oftentimes you need to disassemble the cluster and perform eeprom …

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Yes, Many times EEPROM or Boot Mode work has to be done to correct VIN, Mileage and other parameters. We do quite a bit of business in KIA/Hyundai, Subaru, VW/Audi and BMW. It seems with every model, we have to learn something new. Our latest victim is a 2103 BMW 328i. In this case we were able to just sit in the driver's seat and punch some numbers. diag​.​net/file/f7j0vi7ez… ​

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Bill Owner/Technician
Jackson, Michigan
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Interesting Michael. I have always had a personal dilemma with programming used Ford clusters.... Mainly i see used car lots wanting/needing to do it because of cluster damage or function loss? and they always find one with much lower milage seems. Most of the time I am only called after the swap is done and it won't start anymore. I have always covered my self with proper wording on the invoice…

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Hi Bill, The AutoProPAD is a key programming tool. I use it regularly for Chrysler SKIM codes. It will pull the CAN vehicle SKIM in seconds. It is useful for many security processes across vehicle lines. It will virginize an early Toyota ECM when all keys are lost. It has a diagnostic function that reads codes in all modules. After having it for a week, I decided to add it to the tools I sell…

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Maynard Technician
Elmira, Ontario
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Bill, Forscan is pretty much for ford, lincoln,mercury, mazda. Its pretty fun to do as built data correction with it. Install a used module then correct the as built data to fit the current vehicle... ie, APIMS, Those things are a bit of a bear to program with IDS, but with FORSCAN, ... meh, correct the as built data on a used unit in probly less then a quarter of the time required to go through…

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Bill, I just noticed that you asked about Forscan. As Maynard said, it is only for Ford flavored vehicles. It is a basic scan tool and it allows you to recode modules with As Built data. You can also alter the data to allow features that did not come on the vehicle like folding mirrors, bigger fuel tank, tire size adjustment and so forth.

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Dave Owner/Technician
Saginaw, Michigan
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Michael Christopherson does it still require subscription with ford to recode? Is it capable of any security system procedures?

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Michael Mobile Technician
Clinton, Utah
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Forscan requires no subscription from Ford. It is an aftermarket application and will work with ELM or J2534 devices. The coding information is available from Ford in the Free Resources tab on the Ford techinfo website. It is called as built data. You can add keys on 10 minute wait vehicles from what I understand. I have not used for this as I have other tools that do this like the AutoProPad or…

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Paul Owner/Technician
Boulder, Colorado
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If you have to do this sort of thing only occasionally you can use a mileage correction service, here's one example of such a firm. Their site has links to the laws regarding mileage disclosure etc. odo-pro​.​com/digital-mileag…

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