Aftermarket ADAS Calibration Service "hurdles"

Matt Diagnostician Red Wing, Minnesota Posted   Latest  

We're seriously in the "wild west" when it comes to ADAS service, especially from the independent service perspective. For one, even though on this network at this point in time I may be speaking mostly to the choir, how many of your fellow tradesmen are aware of the use of ADAS, the service implications associated with it as well as liability concerns?

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Keith Instructor
Collinsville, Oklahoma
Keith
   

That was some good information, especially when I hear that a company like Hunter even notices the lack of information and standardization among the OE's with the majority of ADAS systems and procedures. I find it mildly entertaining, although more frightening, that Hunter displayed an antiquated and incompatable OEM tool that does not even interface with the vehicle they were using in the

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Albin Diagnostician
Leavenworth, Washington
Albin
 

Matt, thanks for the link. here is a piece I snipped from the link, "For a collision repairer, this raises the usual dilemma over aftermarket tools or parts: With a safety system — and ultimately, a computer driver — controlling a 3,000-pound, 60 mph block of metal carrying human beings, can you afford to take the risk of an imitation?" This is a very important question, not only to the

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Jorge Manager
Fresno, California
Jorge
   

I recently read an article Seth mentioned from ETI - ADAS: Truth and Consequences. From the article..."...a recent case involving Toyota lane change detection, an ADAS technology located in vehicle side mirrors. During the collision repair, the driver side mirror was not calibrated properly (sensor alignment was off of true by five degrees). The vehicle left the shop this way, and was involved

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David Mobile Technician
Rimforest, California
David
   

I remember similar concerns when SRS came out. If a shop replaces a cable reel, then a frontal collision occurs and the airbag does not deploy. What's the liability of shop? After a while (although still there) the intensity of those concerns died down. I suspect when the "unknown that we fear" becomes common place, the same dynamic will happen, but it's a long road ahead on ADAS.

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Jim Curriculum Developer
Frederick, Maryland
Jim
 

Interesting. Toyota has the ability to detect camera obstruction which will deactivate both Lane keep and radar cruise.

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Scott Manager
Claremont, California
Scott
   

Hi Jorge, Looks like the owners manual has most of this covered. Pages 269 & 271 talk about the Driving Support Systems and avoiding malfunctions of the camera system. Pages 287 & 291 talk about the Lane Departure Alert warnings. Page 668 Talks specifically about the Forward Camera System and it's ability to shut down the system. If “Forward Camera System Unavailable” or “Forward

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Dean Owner
Albany, New York
Dean
 

At this point, OEM laptop, OEM procedure and OEM targets. At least until this whole ADAS thing gets sorted out and becomes common place. Too much liability.

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Bob Business Development Manager
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bob
 

I have spent a LOT Of time in the last three months dealing with ADAS since we (DrewTech) are about to launch a new collision product. The key point we need to stress to shops, consumers, insurers, etc. is the separation of the technology with the procedure. Huh? Right. The scan tool sends a ”calibration” request to the appropriate ECU and the reset/calibration procedure is part of the ECU

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Dean Owner
Albany, New York
Dean
 

I don't understand why, at this point aftermarket companies are getting into the ADAS market. I hope they have really good liability insurance. In this litigation heavy society, I don't see the advantage. Plus, the aftermarket systems seem to be more expensive than the OEM. At this point, I only use OEM, no reason not to and I do a good number of these systems, OEM ONLY!

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Mike Mobile Technician
Mount Pleasant, South Carolina
Mike
 

I really like the idea of having procedures for testing the functionality of these systems. I have heard of using giant inflatable vehicles to test automatic braking systems. Seems a little impractical but maybe that will become standard practice down the road? I would agree the OEM service info for these systems is typically lacking and in some cases incorrect. I will attach a link to a video

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