Can Autel Code / perform immobilizer learn on used ECM

Brian Owner Ohio Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2012 Volkswagen Passat Comfortline 2.5L (CBTA) 5-spd (0A4) — 1VWAP7A36CC053822
Tcm 01314
Central Electrics 01259

Hello all, Once again a volkswagen is showing my lack of Euro experience. This '12 Passat is a Crank no start after starter motor replacement. No comm with the ECM, Other modules thowing codes verifying this. The SES light does come on after 5-15 seconds after key on. I checked t94 1 & 2 and those grounds test good. Also checked power at t94 92 &87 and is good. Testing CAN @ PCM the CAN bus looks normal with PCM unplugged , highs not as high and lows not as low see attached.

I think I am on the right track, Does any one know if autel (906ts) will perform ALL required learn / code/ perform key learn on this vehicle if the PCM is replaced with a used unit?

Thanks for the help!

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Sam Mobile Technician
Michigan
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I believe that is a component protection vehicle. Requiring lsid for immo. It should do throttle and basic coding.

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Bill Owner/Technician
Michigan
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you will need ODIS to do the job....

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
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Hi Brian, Most of the time the used units are not able to be successfully programmed to a VAG vehicle this new. The component protection and VIN is "officially" locked in the ECU. What I do with these is clone the MCU and EEPROM from the original and program to the used donor. Usually I have to use a variety of tools based on the model of ECU. For instance with a MED 17.5.6 I use the KTAG in…

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Steve Instructor
California
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Michael, You amaze me at the way you get around things. There is no mountain too high for you.

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Brian Owner
Ohio
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Thanks for all the information everyone, Michael I that is alot of working around that you do. I would like to learn more about wiping modules in the future.

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
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Brian, I have offered to teach a class at Vision this coming March. So far I have not had a response. My thought is a class in which every attendee had an ECU to take apart, read and analyze. The class would be limited in size so that everyone could get a chance to actually make the process work.

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Lane Mobile Technician
Kentucky
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I personally would make it a priority to attend Vision if this class comes about. Please keep me/us informed if this does happen. Thanks

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Brian Owner
Ohio
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I am interested in the class! Keep us informed of the status!

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Bill Owner/Technician
Michigan
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Michael - i would love some hands on training like this from a guy like you!! Keep us posted on your training ideas and locations. Your creative work arounds are certainly interesting and impressive to me

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
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How about meeting in Michigan and train there? I am thinking October before we see much snow. I could arrange for a location in Sterling Heights or we could see if Bill could host us.

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Bill Owner/Technician
Michigan
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Michael - I would definitely meet you in anywhere in Michigan. As far as hosting it at my shop i am not opposed to that at all but please relize I have a small facility so depending on how many people it could be a issue of space and it would have to be a Sat or Sun.. let me know what your thinking I am willing to work with you. Sounds fun 😊

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Bill Owner/Technician
Michigan
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Michael any further thoughts of coming to Michigan this fall?

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Joseph Technician
South Carolina
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Holy Moses! That would be awesome! Let us know who we need to harrass at Vision to make this happen. Otherwise I would be willing to travel anywhere in the country to attend this class so keep us updated on that too. But I agree lets keep it out of the snow, everyone knows that down south we don't know how to drive in it 😁

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
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Sent another email to Vision and this time they responded right back. The class idea has been submitted to them. We will see if it is approved. -Mike

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Michael Mobile Technician
Utah
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Steve, You are way too kind. I am just a regular guy trying to make a living. I enjoy a challenge and these PCMs are definitely challenging.

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Sam Mobile Technician
Michigan
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I have many contacts in michigan. I am positive I could get a shop to host any size crowd you are comfortable with. I could also fill the class. Just let me know when

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