FDRS programming problem

Dean Owner New York Posted   Latest   Edited  
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2018 Ford Expedition Max Limited 3.5L (T) 10-spd (10R80)

Went to program, configure and align a cruise control module on the above vehicle. 

This is an FDRS vehicle, not IDS. 

I performed PMI, programmable module installation at which point it said the module was successfully installed however configuration data could not be written to this module. 

So, I went under module configuration for the cruise control module and that failed. 

I went to do a dynamic cruise alignment and I got the below listed message

I've never had this problem. I am going back tomorrow to try to pull out of the old module and put into the new. 

Anyone come across this before? 

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Nelson Manager
California
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I recently heard newer cruise control sensors on fords need a NASTF license for replacement. Not sure of the exactly replacement procedure though.

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Dean Owner
New York
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Hmm. That could be. I have NASTF LSID, however I saw no provisions to enter credentials.

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Randy Curriculum Developer
North Carolina
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I just got a call from a local Raleigh shop with a 2017 Mustang. They programmed their cruise control module with an IDS, had a successful report from that and calibrated the radar per SI. IDS said successful but on the test drive it failed. DTCs indicated that the module was not configured. The fix was to pull in as-built data. Starting in about 2016 Ford started requiring LSID / VSP numbers…

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Randall Owner/Technician
Michigan
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Apologies, I have no direct feedback on this specific issue, but perhaps a question/note about my first 6 months reviewing threads on this forum. As i think about the challenges Dean is having with this vehicle (and certainly not just Dean and certainly not just this issue) , profitability and time efficiency come to mind. I recently struggled with an FJDS "blue screen" (not bsod) during the…

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William Diagnostician
Virginia
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Randall you are exactly right! I run into this all the time with programming (bad reman modules, bad dealer modules, software decides today it's not working, login issues, LSID issues, etc.) no one ever wants to pay for the time. It's always "sorry for your troubles". I spent 3 says with Chrysler over a login issue. They refunded the subscription costs, but nothing for the time spent on the…

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Rusty Owner/Technician
Massachusetts
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What do you mean by “this is an FDRS vehicle, not IDS” ?

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Brian Owner
Ohio
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Starting in 18 for expedition and navigator ids is no longer used. more models added each year as IDS is phased out for newer vehicles.

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Chris Technical Support Specialist
New York
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Have you tried PMI from the original module?

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Dean Owner
New York
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Chris, I was hoping the shop would have kept the original module, however they did not. I'm returning in a little bit to give it another try I'll let you know how I make out.

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Oscar Diagnostician
Virginia
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Hi Dean!! this module requires security login in order to perform programming and calibration, I did one of this a while back on a Ford F-150. Ones you do the security, then it will allow you to do the settings. you will also have to drive this vehicle for the calibration. good luck!!

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Dean Owner
New York
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Oscar, Where do I sign in for security login? Do I use NASTF credentials?

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Oscar Diagnostician
Virginia
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Sorry for the late response, yes use the NASTF credentials

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Mat Diagnostician
Virginia
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Dean have You figured out where to enter the credentials ?? im running through the same issue with a 2019 explorer PMI gives me an error message with programming configuration and alignment

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Dean Owner
New York
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Mat, Yes! When you go into the CCM, one of the tabs is labeled PATS. Login under that tab. It will walk you thru the rest. If you get stuck, you more then welcome to call me …

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